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Contents 1 Taste 2 Dictionary definition 3 Taste 4 Moxie Cherry Cola 5 More on Cherry Cola 6 Invented in 7 1930's gangster novels/movies 8 First mass-produced soft drink? 9 Moxie Userbox 10 Odd Edit

[edit] Taste

Its a drink you either love or hate. With a scoop of vanila ice-cream floating in it, its probably the finest drink in the world. That's if you don't hate it! To me it takes a bit like a sweetened version of Guiness.... FK

What does it taste like?

• All I can say is it tastes like Moxie... it has a unique flavor that is unlike anything else I know. -- RTC 17:00 May 12, 2003 (UTC)

• • Descriptions I've read (not having tasted it myself) indicate that it tastes like a cross between unsweetened root beer and some kind of bitter medicine. Is that correct? SCCarlson 03:20 May 13, 2003 (UTC)
    • That is not my impression. It does not resemble root beer at all (or any other flavor I have encountered). It does not seem bitter at all to me, but it does seem less sweet than most of the sodas. Try a Google search for "original Moxie" and you will find several places that sell it via internet. I think one has to try it themselves to see if they like it as I suspect that it may taste different to different people. -- RTC 16:29 May 14, 2003 (UTC)
      • Indeed, the Moxie of today isn't nearly as strong as it used to be. If you can find origianl moxie you will find it to be much diffrent then that you can find in the store I believe.
    • If forced to make a comparative description, I'd say it's something inbetween RC Cola and Creme Soda. It has its own flavor, but I didn't find it particularly bitter, unusual, or distinctive compared to other sodas. -- Infrogmation
    • It tastes a little bit like turpentine. It is not bitter nor does it taste at all like creme soda. It reminds me more of Sasparilla or Birch beer, but the flavor is definitely strong and distinct, with a noticable after taste. Moxie is sort of like tonic water with quinine in: many people consider the drinks vile but strangely some like it, and after drinking it for a while you grow to like it. InanimateCarbonRod 17:17, 10 Oct 2003 (UTC)
• I'd have to say it's about as close to carbonated iodine as you'll ever taste. Toscaesque 15:22, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

It tastes like carbonated motor-oil to me.--Paul 05:11, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

• • Personally, I've always hated the stuff. I've always considered it to taste like burnt root-beer and floride. Being a New Englander, I've heard alot of my older family members talk about drinking it. It seems it was popular to drink with milk (blergh).Bavor 9 July 2005 07:48 (UTC)

I may be an upstate New Yorker, but I have tried Moxie in the past, and my opinion of it is pretty much the same as you guys. My parents make it a point to get a 12-pack of Moxie whenever they visit the Bay State. I'm not much of a gambling man (and call me crazy), but I'm willing to bet that one day the Massachusetts government will consider smuggling Moxie west of the state line bootlegging (much like Coors and Texas. Ever see Smokey and the Bandit?) JB82 02:41, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

It's an acquired taste, for sure. Just as first-time drinkers tend to find Dr Pepper unpleasantly sweet, those who try Moxie find it bitter. But then again, not many people like beer or wine the first time they try it, either.

The most similar flavor to Moxie is Italian chinotto, which tends to be sweeter and a bit more perfumey, but it can have a similar quinine-like aftertaste. Cheaper brands usually achieve this with larger amounts of phosphoric acid.

It seemed to me that Moxie became sweeter and its aftertaste was reduced sometime between the late 1980s and the early 1990s. However, I haven't tasted it since then; it's too hard to find. ProhibitOnions 10:19, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

It tastes like a combanation of 8% Diet Coke, 15% root beer, 72% cough medicine, 3% cloves, and 2% turpentine. I had it about 4 months a go. I didn't really like it. Its kinda like Dr. Pepper. When DP is put in your mouth, it tastes like COke, but when you swallow it, it tastes like grape soda with Coke. Same with Moxie: it tastes like root beer with a tad bid of cough medicine when first put in your mouth, but when you swallow it, it tastes much like cough medicine and other things. Not the best thing to drink when you are running outside in the snow. --JCasto 02:36, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Like sweetened, carbonated, A1 steak-sauce. It is "sort-of" refreshing in the same was proper Coke and not as tooth-pasty as root beer. Some elements of cream soda. It makes sense that it shares a common ingrediant with the Manhattan cocktail. I can just about tolerate that flavor as well. Overall, I'd rather just drink a cherry-lime rikey. 75.80.57.164 00:15, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

• It is unique. Why try to describe it? Would you describe what Coke tastes like? I agree entirely with the first comment by User:RTC; it is a one-of-a-kind and delicious soda. --Rmpfu89 17:49, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dictionary definition

Isn't "moxie" mainly an noun, similar in meaning to "attitude"?

Perhaps some kind of disambiguation page is required?

• • • Yes, I think there should be a disambiguation page for that definition. I might add another page to go to that page, but we'll see...

I vote No. This was originally brought up in July and the sky hasn't fallen since then. Besides the other definiton of Moxie is a dictionary word, not encyclopedic, so it shouldn't even be in Wikipedia, but in Wiktionary.Gator1 19:37, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Actually, I was refering to the term "Moxie" from the web-based online Role-playing Game, the Kingdom of loathing (www.kingdomofloathing.com). There's an entire wiki for it already, but I did a search on Moxie with the intent to find a link to KOL....Nevermind...I found their wiki shortly after this...

It should be mentioned that the word moxie derived from the drink Moxie, and not the other way round. ProhibitOnions 09:53, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

I think the meaning of "Moxie" as "attitude" was popularized bu 1930's film noir, see below. linas 17:06, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

It is hard to understand exactly why Moxie would be considered the first mass produced soft drink when The KUTZTOWN BOTTLING WORKS INC., located at 78-80 S. Whiteoak St., Kutztown, PA has been in continual operation since 1851,

When I was young a 10 cent bottle of Moxie was considered a punishment not a Treat.

• I was suspicious about the M-O-X-Y spelling of Moxie. I looked it up in the OED and Merriam-Webster and found nothing. So, I think we should leave that point out of the article.

[edit] Taste

"The women will think your foxy if you chug-a-lug your Moxie" As a long time Moxie lover, I have to ask, how many of you have tasted paint thinner, motor oil, or mineral spirits? Because they dont taste anything near an ice cold Moxie. It also goes great with any alcohol as a mixer... just dont knock it till you try it... Christopher "Infamous" Cochran

[edit] Moxie Cherry Cola

I live in California and some stores have begun selling Moxie cherry cola and cream soda drinks. I have never seen the orriginal Moxie drink described in this article, but the Moxie in California is definitely the same brand. The pointing man logo is the same, but the sodas are sold only in glass bottles. Cherry cola is the one I see most often, and it's tasty, but I don't think it has the unique flavor that others have described in this article. Are these other flavors of Moxie common where they sell the original Moxie, or are they only sold to places where the orriginal flavor of Moxie is unknown? There should be some mention of Moxie's other flavors and where they are sold.

The other flavors of moxie are only found in the pacific northwest and are produced by a bottling company based there which mixes the moxie concentrate that the Monarch company manufactures with other flavors. In the east and in other parts of the country where moxie is sold the only varieties available are original and diet. --Facedogg 23:05, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More on Cherry Cola

I know of a Richland, WA convenience store that sells Moxie Cherry Cola. I've asked about the chances of them selling Original Moxie, because I want to try it. They said they haven't had any requests for it yet.

Bummer!

[edit] Invented in

Can anyone verify that Moxie was invented in Farmington, Maine? Everything I've read about moxie online points to its invention in Lowell, MA. I have yet to see any connection to Moxie and Farmington, Maine besides here on Wikipedia. Does anyone have a copy of The Moxie Encyclopedia? Besides various internet articles I have no solid evidence. 70.161.84.50 07:30, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1930's gangster novels/movies

I thought that the phrase "he's got Moxie" shows up in 1930's film noir as a synonym for the modern "he's got balls" (viz. he's got an attitude, he's brave, per dict-def discussed above; in the sense of "watch out, he's been drinking Moxie all night"). linas 16:59, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] First mass-produced soft drink?

I think a clearer distinction about why Moxie is the first mass-produced soft drink, despite the fact that the Vernor's article states: "Detroit's Vernors ginger ale shares the title of America's oldest soft drink with Hires Root Beer. It was invented in 1866 ..."

I think it's because Moxie is a brand name whereas Root Beer and Ginger Ale are more on the generic side nowadays.

Because Hires wasn't mass produced by any modern definition of the term. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.189.255.6 (talk) 04:34, 13 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Moxie Userbox

Hey anyone who enjoys drinking Moxie I created a userbox for your profiles. it's {{User Moxie}} and appears as

Pharos04 09:08, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Odd Edit

Looking over this article I noticed that the trivia section contains a boldface bullet consisting of

Content removed due to appropriateness level

it replaced a comment about the online game Kingdom of Loathing's use of the term 'moxie.' This seems to me to be as valid a trivia comment as any other, certainly more pertinent than "Content removed due to appropriateness level," which has nothing to do with Moxie.

I'd like to recommend that the original statement be returned, or at least that the new one be removed.

Teto 04:39, 30 January 2007 (UTC)