Talk:Moss Beach, California

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Moss Beach Distillary is not a California Historical Landmark.
Moss Beach Distillary is a California Point of Historical Interest.

Referring to: How to Nominate a Property as a California Historical Landmark or California Point of Historical Interest

Both State Landmarks and Points of Interest are created by the same law. State Landmarks being of statewide significance and Points of Interest being of city or county significance. The criteria governing the designation of Points are the same as those that govern the Landmarks.

From the State of California codes: [1]
5022.6.Landmark and Point of Interest Markers; design; misdemeanor violation. The department shall adopt standard design and detail for the marker and for the plaque which may be erected or raised at registered historical landmarks. The use of such marker or plaque shall be prescribed by rule adopted by the department. Any person who maliciously or for commercial purposes, or contrary to such rule, uses or allows to be used any reproduction or facsimile of such standard marker or plaque in any manner whatsoever is guilty of a misdemeanor.

It is a crime to have a plaque on a building that is not a California Point of Historical Interest.
Moss Beach Distillery has a California Point of Historical Interest plaque on it. [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]
So, they are breaking the law or, it is a California Point of Historical Interest.
I, like any other reasonable person, would assume the latter. Verified. --Uglydude | Talk 13:31, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I am not sure what the point of writing such long entry was. Were you trying to state I was not being a reasonable person because I would not admit that the Distillery was a Historical Landmark? The simple fact is that the Distillery is not a CHL.

There is a distinct difference between CHL's and Points of Historical Interest. In fact, the rules state "No historical resource may be designated as both a Landmark and a Point." How to Nominate a Property as a California Historical Landmark or California Point of Historical Interest Page 4. A Point can be upgraded to a Landmark, but they are two different creatures. And while it is true that they are generally governed by the same set of laws, the requirements are vastly different, along with the level of "protection" and the type of marker or plaque they receive. In fact, a Point only receives a general road marker indicating saying "A Point of Historical Interest" (See page 12 of the PDF under 5022.5). It is up to the owner of the Point to actually set up the marker or plaque.

As to your comment that that it is "[i]t is a crime to have a plaque on a building that is not a California Point of Historical Interest" that is simply mistaken. They are literally hundreds of building that have markers that are not California Points of Historical Interest, but local points of historical interest. See the downtowns of San Jose or Pleasanton.

All this being said, chances are the Distillery is a Point of Historical Interest. But I cannot confirm this with the Office of Historic Preservation 1

--Jvsett 00:31, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

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Moss Beach Distillary is not a California Historical Landmark. Please see the offical CHL website for San Mateo county here: http://ohp.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=21520

It is not listed on the list. So please stop saying it is.

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im sure you were trying to be helpful and aid in NPOV, but you have stricken some important information from moss beach

first, karen brown is one of the most noted contemporary authors in california, having written about 18 different travel guides worldwide. the fact that she lives in moss beach and operates a noted lodging destination is notable. (i am not affiliated with her business in any way; i am a scientist who has studied the moss beach area for 30 yrs). there is a wikipedia article in progress on karen brown...not released ye

second, the Fitzgerald Marine Reserve is an extraordinary biological resource. have you read the wikipedia article or been there?

best regards Anlace 19:13, 26 February 2006 (UTC) --(added from Talk:Dcfleck). Dcfleck 20:38, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

I'll take your word for it that Karen Brown is notable; that isn't obvious from the article (the lack of a Karen Brown page doesn't help). I don't dispute the noteworthiness of the Fitzgerald Marine Reserve, either; just some of the adjectives used to describe it. --Dcfleck 20:45, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

By the way, what is a "destination lodging property"? How is it different from a "hotel"? -- Dcfleck 20:48, 26 February 2006 (UTC)