Talk:Mosin-Nagant

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Dear Author!

Please note that the Russian name is correctly Moisin. You should correct this page accordingly.

Hearthiest welcome

(Millisits)

"Mosin" is the spelling I find most common and is consistently used by the authorities I trust.

The most accurate transliteration is, in fact, Mosin. Мосин -->Mosin, see? :) it's either that or Moseen, and that doesn't look as good. Zytsef 10:35, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] Design

Something needs to be said about the design of the rifle. Especially the peculiar and idiosyncratic feeding mechanism.Veritas Panther 14:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Where to find good info on the mosin-nagant rifles.

Dear author, I own a Mosin-Nagant rifle and it took me awhile to find http://www.mosinnagant.net/ and it is a really informative site on the history and makings of the rifle and the bullet. You can find out alot of information on this firearm there. Hope it helps you out with expanding this page.

[edit] Influx of Mosin-Nagants

I recall that two American armory, one of which should be Remington, had produced the Mosin-Nagant for the Russian during WWII. However, many are undelivered, and end up as surplus.

This is correct. I've seen Remington Nagants for sale in gun stores before. CynicalMe 23:35, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

New England Westinghouse (NEW) is the other American manufacturer. Never refer to the rifle as a "Nagant"--it is a Mosin Nagant. "Nagant" refers to the pistol only.

[edit] Foreign rifles

The length of the table of contents sort of bothers me, I was thinking of making the name of each entry under this sub-section bold instead of sub-sub-sections. I've also been considering whether the sub-section name is a little POV. Other editors' opinions on this? --Zytsef 18:38, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Possible vandalism

Today's edit by 212.159.98.189 comes from an address with many vandalism warnings, although different users may share the same address. The rifle caliber of .33 mm is to tiny to fit the ammunition, although he may have meant .33 inches which is 8.382 mm. Art LaPella 19:05, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mosin-Nagant 2.4 Finland

and from Nazi Germany's stockpile of arms. Many of these rifles were simply reissued for use.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the guns captured from the germany accruired from the Lapland War? If so, link to Lapland War would be nice (I didn't add it because I'm not sure....)

No, Finland bought captured soviet-Mosins from Germany in summer of 1944. --81.197.239.57 21:17, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proper pronunciation

Would anyone be willing to record the proper pronunciation of "Mosin-Nagant" for this article? I am aware that there are websites out there that type out how to pronounce it, but I would like to listen to someone say it correctly.

It is pronounced mo-SEEN Nahgahn. Rhymes with "knock-on" not "wagon".

>It's interesting you should say "Nahgahn", as in this article the native Russian is mentioned as being Мосин-Наган, without the т. Everywhere else I've done reading in the rifle in the internet, including Russian pages and forums (though I don't speak the language) have spelt it as "Нагант". Is this some kind of common bastardization or is the dropping of the T in pronounciation a bastardization? Or is the above simply wrong.

I've also noticed a dropping of the "T" in some translations from the Russian, both in regard to the M-N and to the Nagant M-95 revolver. I'm not sure if this is coming from the Russian spelling, or is a reference to the origanal French pronunciation of "Nagant." It is after all the last name of a Belgian.

[edit] Citations needed

"This rifle was designed to be fired with the bayonet extended, which increased accuracy due to harmonic vibrations created when a round is fired" Never heard of this happening before. I know standard infantry rifles were sighted for firing with bayonet extended, but I'm in doubt about increased accuracy due to it. Anyone have a good source for this claim? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zytsef (talkcontribs) 21:39, 6 December 2006 (UTC).


Never heard of 'harmonic vibrations', hardly ever hear of a bayonet adding to accuracy either. In rare cases though, like with the M44 Carbine, the added the weight with the bayonet extended reduces muzzle flip. Izzy1985 03:12, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Went ahead and removed the claim since it seemed pretty outlandish and no one wanted to support it. Zytsef 11:04, 23 February 2007 (UTC)