Talk:Moscow

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[edit] Media section

Is the Media section really necessary?--Planemo 12:15, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyrighted Photos

Many photos in this article are copyrighted. Please try to use free images for Wikipedia articles, instead of copyrighted images. An article on a major city like Moscow should not need to use any copyrighted images. --Mamin27 02:38, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Some of the copyrighted photos: 100px 100px 100px 100px 100px 100px

How would you imagine a non-copyrighted image of a building being constructed?--Nixer 21:57, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

  • You don't need it for Moscow. It's not fair-use to put a copyrighted picture of a building that is unnecessary for the Moscow article. Maybe it's fair-use in the specific building article, but not in the Moscow article. An article like Moscow should not depend on copyrighted photos. --Mamin27 07:10, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
    You wrongly understand fair use.--Planemo 20:08, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proper Russian spellings

I understand the temptation to insert foreign (i.e., English) spellings into an article about Russian, but I have learned from my studies in Wikipedia that this is not acceptable. For example, over on the Franz Josef Strauss article, the following editors—

Gryffindor
Haukur Þorgeirsson
C.Löser
Edinborgarstefan
Schubbay
Darkone
Sicherlich
Angr
Reinhard
Stern
Denniss
Carbidfischer

made it abundantly clear that using an incorrect spelling, simply because it is the "normal" English translation, is just wrong. We need to stick to correct spellings of proper names. These editors have been around a lot longer than me, and most of them are European, so we need to listen to them. They know better than English speakers. 65.80.244.202 19:17, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

I assumed good faith yesterday and simply warned not to do this again. But you are continuing, which means that you are vandalizing the page to prove a point. TSO1D 19:21, 1 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Security dealing with crime

There should be stuff about how Moscow's security forces deal with the high crime rates if at all. I just can't find any info on Moscow secuity.

Hi. I spent four days in Moscow (March 17, 2007 to March 20, 2007) and found the city to be quite safe, despite all the articles I had read on the internet that warned about high crime rates as well as racial violence dealing with skin-head and neo-nazi gangs. While in Moscow I did not run into any gangs of skin-heads/neo-nazis at all. I was particularly worried inittially since I am from Mexico and though I would be an easy target for those racist groups. Like I said, however, I did not see any of those gangs in Moscow, so that was comforting. The only thing I have to add with regards to safety is that I am very pleased to see that Moscow is not quite at the high crime rates of western cities such as Chicago, Houston, Mexico City, etc. I was a little dissapointed with the russian's cold character that seemed rude to western standards, however, one has just to understand their culture I guess. One last thing, you MUST learn russian before you go to Russia. It is not like other countries in which you find people that speak some english. Even the few russians that speak english expect you to know russian. So long.66.68.254.13 01:01, 24 March 2007 (UTC)David66.68.254.13 01:01, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting the image of Federation Tower

I suspect the image is fully valid. It is a fair-use image from a press-kit and it cannot be replaced because it is the architect's view of the project and any other drowings imitating the building will be inaccurate. Anyway we should provide some images of how the architects plan the IBC will look like. To those who deleted the image: please explain your position.--Dojarca 09:59, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The gallery

I think we shall not delete the gallery unless the most notable images are placed in the article proper.--Dojarca 10:07, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Tell that to Featured Article Objectors! It is not normal for an encyclopedic article to have a gallery of pictures. Please do not put the gallary back. --Hirakawacho 20:03, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Most articles about cities have galleries including such as New York, Beijing, Tokyo, Shanghai. Please do not impose double standards here.--Dojarca 21:22, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Dojarca Click here Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Moscow. Until you are willing to explain to the objectors you position I am afraid I have no choice but to listen to the objectors. So please tell them, not me. If it is featured it will be on the main page. --Hirakawacho 23:06, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
None of the four articles you noted are featured. There may be a few city articles with galleries, but this is not a place for showcasing pictures of arbitrary places in Moscow. If you want a gallery of Moscow photos, we have the Wikimedia Commons page for that. -- tariqabjotu 17:55, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deleted Links

I added links to the waytorussia.net guide to Moscow (http://www.waytorussia.net/Moscow/Guide.html) in General and Russia Today TV (http://www.russiatoday.ru/test/) in Media and was told they were deleted because they were "inappropriate". Any reason why? I understand Russia Today might be considered biased because it's state-owned. At the same time it has some interesting stuff and it doesn't hurt to see a different perspective. At any rate, NTV (which has a link) is essentially state-owned as well. As for waytorussia.net, that site has more information than my Russian Lonely Planet guide does. So what's the deal? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Globe traveller (talk • contribs) 08:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC).

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