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[edit] Foo American
As with the other Foo American articles, this article needs to discuss their arrival in the US, settlement and achievements. Thanks Hmains 02:38, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Mongols
I've recently been reading that the mongols are divided into various different ethnic groups, and that would apply to mongolian americans, too. Also, i've read that there are also non-mongol peoples in Mongolia. Gringo300 04:55, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Mongol, Mongolic, and Mongolian
I'm under the impression that the term Mongolian is more of a nationality than an ethnicity. It looks to me like the terms Mongol American and Mongolic American would make more sense than Mongolian American. Gringo300 07:10, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
- Nope, like Chinese American and Burmese American, we're already talking about the nationality. Thanks though. Chris 07:19, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, before i go any further, i need to ask: Would an American of Achang descent be considered a "Chinese American"? I'll need to know before i can go any further with this... Gringo300 05:36, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- For the sake of Wikipedia articles, unless there are significant numbers of Achang in the U.S., then yes it would go under Chinese American. If there is a large or historically significant population, like Hmong American or Tibetan American, then it would have its own article. Go further with what? Chris 05:52, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, to begin with, generally when people talk about "the Chinese", they mean the Han ethnic group. However, the Han ethnic group are NOT the only people from China. It looks to me like the "Chinese" in Chinese American is a reference to ethnicity rather than nationality. I'm under the impression that the term "Chinese American" usually means "Americans of Han descent". I have no idea how many Achangs are in the United States. Gringo300 06:29, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- Which people? When Americans, for instance, speak of "Chinese", most mean someone from China, and truly have no idea the number of ethnic groups, just as during the Cold War Americans used "Russian" to refer to any denizen of the Soviet Union, whether they were ethnically Russian or not. The CA article never mentions Han once, I checked. Unless you can source your claim, it is an assumption that the commonly understood use of Chinese-American refers primarily to the Han. I still don't understand what you are planning. If it is to break up this article into smaller ones by ethnicity, don't. Chris 06:44, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- I'm planning to see whether or not the term "Mongolian American" is an officially recognized term among anthropologists and similar such people. I've heard that it wouldn't be the first time there had been a Wikipedia article going outside of officially recognized terms if it isn't. See what happened to the "Malaysian American" article. Gringo300 07:39, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- Which people? When Americans, for instance, speak of "Chinese", most mean someone from China, and truly have no idea the number of ethnic groups, just as during the Cold War Americans used "Russian" to refer to any denizen of the Soviet Union, whether they were ethnically Russian or not. The CA article never mentions Han once, I checked. Unless you can source your claim, it is an assumption that the commonly understood use of Chinese-American refers primarily to the Han. I still don't understand what you are planning. If it is to break up this article into smaller ones by ethnicity, don't. Chris 06:44, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, to begin with, generally when people talk about "the Chinese", they mean the Han ethnic group. However, the Han ethnic group are NOT the only people from China. It looks to me like the "Chinese" in Chinese American is a reference to ethnicity rather than nationality. I'm under the impression that the term "Chinese American" usually means "Americans of Han descent". I have no idea how many Achangs are in the United States. Gringo300 06:29, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- For the sake of Wikipedia articles, unless there are significant numbers of Achang in the U.S., then yes it would go under Chinese American. If there is a large or historically significant population, like Hmong American or Tibetan American, then it would have its own article. Go further with what? Chris 05:52, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, before i go any further, i need to ask: Would an American of Achang descent be considered a "Chinese American"? I'll need to know before i can go any further with this... Gringo300 05:36, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- I completely agree with Chris on this matter and what he has said in general about this type of category. And creating lots of subcategories with few articles just invites proposals that they be deleted and/or upmerged. Result: just wasted effort for no benefit. Hmains 19:02, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
