Talk:Mongol invasion of Central Asia

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Though a bit on the short side for a rather important campaign (in my opinion anyway), I think there are several things that need to be fixed in the artical. For instance, the Siege of Otrar was not a quick capture. It took a five month siege before the Mongols were able to break through a small sally gate to gain access to the city, and it took another month before the city's citadel fell. Further, Bukhara was sieged by Genghis before he assaulted Samarkand, as we wanted to elimante the possibility of reinforcements from Bakhara from attacking his flanks (Bukhara was west of Samarkand). Also, you stated that Genghis selected his third son to be his succesor. However, it should be put in some context. The reason that Genghis had done this was because of a dispute that was rising between the two oldest sons: Jochi and Chaghatai during the siege of Urgench (after the fall of Samarkand). Jochi was promised the city after its fall, and wanted it in pristine condition. Because of that, Jochi interferred with the military aspect of the conquest, infurirating his younger brother Chaghatai. Also, I think it should be noted that the Shah's son, Jalal ad-Din, inflicted the Mongol's only major defeat in the campaign at Parwan in Afghanistan. Another suggestion might be to expand on various different tactics that Genghis and his sons used during the campaign, such as complete and utter decimation of cities and the use of prisoners as body shields when storming citadels. Hope this helps. - Lasserbeamcrossfire

I copy-pasted this article from Genghis Khan. Why don't you expand? --Ghirla ^-трёп- 08:04, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, I know that some people can get angry when someone does that. I will expand it then! - Lasserbeamcrossfire

Thanks. --Ghirla ^-трёп- 06:59, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alright...

I think I am done with this. There are probably a good amount of spelling errors, so I'll be going back and correcting those from time to time. Think of anything else that needs to be added/expanded/removed? --Laserbeamcrossfire 02:27, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

It was a nice article, so I hope you don't mind I expanded on it, and detailed the reasons on the review page. Some of hte issues - such as the Shah's differences with the Caliph, the reasons Jochi was so embittered by his treatment during the war, the incredible use of the tactics of indirect attack and wholesale terror, plus the usual 3 introgatory paragraphs, plus badly needed sourcing and linking. Hope you like the additions...old windy bear 00:38, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Love the edits myself, so it's not a problem. I don't know much about Mongol military history, but an article I read caused some interest somewhere in my brain, and so I did some additional research. Unfortunately, my library at school was very lacking in modern books on the subject, so I had to use an old copy of Prawdin's book. Anyways, your additions were very awesome. :) --Laserbeamcrossfire 04:54, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Laserbeamcrossfire Thanks, and you did an outstanding article especially considering the lack of reference material. I have been studying the Mongols for 35 years, and have every book listed in the references, plus 3,000 (mostly varied history on just about everything, especially Rome in all it's phases, the Mongols, and the Dark Ages) more, at home, so my ability to dig up trivia was infinitely greater. You did a super job on the base article, 

) I was just polishing your good work. Always a pleasure to work with a good person and good editor! 

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--old windy bear 11:11, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

I've given the article GA status..i picked pt a few typo errors and it would help some additional references but it is a good read up to its level. --Zak 22:57, 2 September 2006 (UTC)