Talk:Money (Pink Floyd song)
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Perhaps should include disambiguation with Beatles, Kingsmen, etc. song of this name?--Samuel J. Howard 16:57, 3 May 2004 (UTC)
- Perhaps... But as a note, there are well over 15 songs named money that aren't covers... It would be a long list. - Fizscy46 15:37, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] Time Signature
I disagree that the verse part is in 21/8. There is no triplet feel typical of a compound meter (x/8), the drums are playing a pretty straigtforward 7 beats without further subdivision (kick-snare-kick-snare-kick-snare-kick). I would argue 7/4, or maybe 14/8 to capture the quaver (8th note) in the second beat of the bassline. --Steve carlson 04:30, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
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Sorry to hijack your post, but I think it is 21/8. You can hear it in the drumbeat and in the bassline, each beat is clearly in triplets. However if that's true that means the solo is in 12/8, not 4/4. You can't have it both ways, right? Either they're both compound or they're both simple IMO. Mike Williamson
LEARN TO COUNT. It's in 21/8. No 'triplets' bullshit. If the entire song happens to use triplets, they become part of the time signature. 7 * 3 = 21. 7 beats per bar composed of triplets. It's based around the standard blues / RNB 12/8 thing, with one beat cut, hence the rhythm is kick, snare, kick, snare [1234] kick snare hi hat [123]. Pink Floyd are high is they think this is in 7/8. Jesus god. Also, there's no way in holy fuck this song is in 7/8. -Gates, pissed that someone keeps changing this back to 7/4 when there are clearly no offbeats.
[edit] Another different user
Isn't it just 7/4 played in triplets? ( It's clearly phrased as 7 beats ). Each bar is played as 7 sets of triplets ( 3 8th notes played in the space of 2 ). In traditional notation these would be bracketed above with a "3" and in reality the duration of each 8th note is 2/3 of a "normal" 8th note. 21/8 would be the triplets "undone" and doesn't represent the emphesis of the beat. Same deal with the solo part, only it's 4 beats not 7. So I think it's just 7/4 and 4/4. I'm no expert though...
Mike Evans.
I am an expert, and I agree that it is indeed just a swung 7/4, not 21/8. I don't feel like joining an edit war, though, so I'm just leaving my opinion here in case it is of use to future editors. dfan
The members of Pink Floyd mention in The Making Of Dark Side Of The Moon that the time signature is 7/8.
Although the sax solo has a lot of "triplets" in it suggesting a possible 21/8, the other instruments (drums and bass in particular) hardly play anything on what would be the 2nd, 5th, etc beats in a 21/8 bar during the verses. This to me suggests that the verses are in a swung 7/4 time. The guitar solo however sounds like it is in 12/8 time - deduced by listening to closely to drum beat. There are clearly three high hats to each of the four beats in the bar which indicates 12/8 rather than a swung 4/4. Rattus
[edit] Portion Deleted
The text deleted belongs more properly in the existing article for The Wall - it is mentioned here as it is a reference to the song of the article, not intending to summarize the scene entire.Daemon8666 21:37, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Errors
The time signature is 7/4, as dfan stated above. The solo is in 4/4. David Gilmour himself stated on the DVD 'Making of Dark Side of the Moon' that it had a time signature of 7/8, but it is commonly known to be in fact 7/4. The sheet music also states 7/4 as well....
Also, why is there a section labelled "Dark Side of the Moon"? There is no need for it, as we already know which album it comes from. Also, the information in that section is erroneous. Roger states on 'Making of Dark Side of the Moon' that the originally demo was not bluesy, and that it didn't have the bluesy transatlantic twang as the released version did. "Roger Waters created the early version of Money in a house in his garden." In a house in his garden? This doesn't make sense... if anything, it was created in his garden at his house.
I'm going to make these corrections... please consult me if you have problems with it but I have researched this and I do believe I am correct. Naturrien 23:14, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
I believe that by "house in his garden" he meant a toolshed. If I recall correctly, he first thought of the coin dropping sounds for the opening of the song while storing tools and made a tape loop of the several coin sounds he recorded. antiuser 22:45, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Not a house in the garden, and not a toolshed either. On the 'Classic Albums: The Making of Dark Side of the Moon', Waters states: "...And my wife had this pottery shed back behind the house...", and also that for the first recording of this song, he tracked himself throwing loose change into a large kettle that was in the pottery shed. Also, Waters discusses the time signature in 'The Making of' video, stating "[the song] was in 7/8, but [the band] decided to go into 4/4 for the solo so that I wouldn't have such a hard time writing it". Hope this helps.
[edit] Covers
Does anyone know who did covers for this song? There is no way to tell from the disambig page. I know the used one in The Italian Job, but I don't know who it is. Akrabbim 03:09, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
- Velvet Revolver—I've just corrected the existing info on them covering Money. —Rotring 14:11, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Single Cover
Shouldn't the picture representing this be the single cover? With the one dollar bill between the stain glass window frames? And one of the band members' reflection staring at it? It's more representative than the album's cover.
- Thats just the Dark Side of the moon template. --Akrabbim 13:25, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Spoken word samples
Does anybody know who did the spoken word bits at the end?
- I believe most of the spoken word chatter in the album comes from when the band members went around Abbey Road and asked people various questions. Source: [1] Spartacusprime 19:27, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Plagiarism?
This site (in the part where they explain 7/8) has the same exact paragraph on the time signatures of the song. I have no idea who copied whom, but the site does say when it is quoting from books. 201.19.36.136 04:36, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Errors in booklet
Is that section really that notable? i think it should be either deleted or condensed into one or two sentinces and merged with something else. I can understand if there was some serious lyrical errors perhaps due to different versions of the song. but grammatical and layout errors are hardly notable. i suggest the section is removed.--Paradox CT 00:47, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
