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[edit] Engineering Ranking
The article says "Its Engineering Faculty was also ranked number 1 in Australia and approximately number 16 in the world according to THES 2004/2005.". According to THES 2004/2005 It is the Univesrity of New South Whales with a ranking of 16th in the world and 1 in Australia.
Rankings here (you need to register for a free 14-day trial to view the rankings): http://www.thes.co.uk/statistics/international_comparisons/2005/top_100_tech.aspx
--Gms 14:21, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Size of campus
The article as it currently stands says the Monash Clayton campus is the largest university campus by area in the Southern Hemisphere, at 100 hectares (1 km²). But Murdoch University here in Perth has a campus of 247 hectares. - Mark 13:10, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
- I have gone ahead and removed the offending statement. Both Murdoch and ANU have larger campuses than Monash. - Mark 13:59, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] The synchrotron is NOT an electron microscope
Therefore i have edited this abomination out of existence
[edit] Removed
What appears to be nothing more than a vanity link, considering the other Notable Alumni.
"It is one of Australia's "Group of Eight" leading universities"
The Group of Eight is not a group of leading universities. It is a lobby group, thats it. It does contain what are clearly some of the leading institutions, but it is mearly a group of universities with the most money and resources pooling their resources for lobbying the government. The above reference makes it sound like Monash is one of the 8 top universities in the country becsuse it is in the Go8. Rank universities by the The Times Higher Education Supplement and other proper resources not by membership of another organization that clearly states that it wants to be seen as a lobby group only.--Maverick05 14:50, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- I think Maverick has a point. Ambi, why do you disagree? Would it help if it said "It belongs to Australia's "Group of Eight" universities."? --Bduke 11:02, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Here is what the given reasons as to why Ambi believes I am wrong. Plus my responses.
They are the eight universities with the highest entry scores FALSE (yeah sure if you look at only the top couple of courses that’s true, but look at the whole picture and you will see that it is far from the truth, the University of Melbourne has two of the highest entry requirements for courses in Victoria, but they also have the two lowest in the state, don’t be selective), the highest demand FALSE(in Victoria, my area of expertise, the highest demand statistics showed up as a mix between the University of Melbourne and Deakin, not a Go8 member), the “highest prestige” (true perhaps, but prestige is a ridiculous statistic, prestige is gained simply by the fact that these universities have been around the longest, who really cares, what SHOULD be the measurement of how good a university it is now not 100 years ago), “and the best job prospects” (prestigious stereotypes may lead this to be somewhat true, but in fact if you look at the detailed breakdown job entry rates from Melbourne and Monash the gap is very small, again archaic stereotypes lead people to believe that job entry is easier from these universities, they really hold very little advantage).
I know this sounds trivial, but this is a stereotype that I am frankly sick of. I have been trying to push through this stuff in my work for years and everything I can do to stop it I will do it. --Maverick05 11:41, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
I have added another reference to the Go8, one that is not misleading, its not good, it doesnt sound good, but to be i dont mind how good it sounds as long as its not misleading. If we keep misleading information on this site we defeat its entire purpose.--Maverick05 11:53, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- If you want to make it clearer that it is largely a lobby group, be my guest. However, moving it down below a sentence about the size of the Clayton campus is nonsensical. "I have been trying to push through this stuff in my work for years and everything I can do to stop it I will do it." Wikipedia is not a place to push an agenda. Ambi 01:02, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Whats there now is fine by me. What I meant by the comment before, in my work i encounter many people who have an attitude that Go8 universities, especially the sandstones, deserve preferential treatment, and that these universitys are automaticly better in every way shape and form. If a resource such as wikipedia reports the Go8 universities as better, just because they are Go8 members, that attitude will continue and continue to cause problems. --Maverick05 06:03, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Faculties
It appears that the list of faculties is outdated and incorrect. No longer does the School Of Physics And Materials Engineering exist. I am unaware of the reseach centres associated with the, now, Department Of Materials Engineering; nor do I know which centres relate to the School Of Physics. I will make changes to the faculty list concerning the School Of Physics And Materials Engineering when I am more informed on the issue. However, other faculties may need to be checked and amendments made as necessary. - 01:16, 04 Mar 2006 (UTC +10)
- Why isnt the David Dehram Law School in the Fac listing? Man this page needs a heck of a lot of work Domza 11:19, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
- can we break out the faculties into its own page, cause its messy as all hell. PLEASE? Domza 01:26, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Gippsland Campus
This subsection states: "Gippsland Campus Gippsland campus is home to 2,000 on-campus students, 5,000 off-campus students and nearly 400 staff. The campus sits prettily in the Latrobe Valley's little town of Churchill, 142km east of Melbourne on 63 hectares of landscaped grounds. It is the only non-metropolitan campus of Monash University."
I'm planning to change this to: "Gippsland Campus Gippsland campus is home to approximately 2,000 on-campus students, 5,000 off-campus students and nearly 400 staff. The campus is situated in the Latrobe Valley town of Churchill, 142km east of Melbourne on 63 hectares of landscaped grounds. It is the only non-metropolitan campus of Monash University."
Any objections? Tinkstar1985 05:27, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
- There's no problem with that at all, and there's nothing wrong with being bold and making the edit right away, because "sitting prettily in a town" is hardly the sort of tone that you'd expect in an encyclopedia. I've gone ahead and made the changes for you. invincible 05:22, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
