Talk:Mon Chéri

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Mon Chéri is no more notable than any other type of candy. - Kenwarren 18:53, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)

  • Delete. Also delete Ferrero Rocher, and Kinder Egg. The Ferrero company should know better than to peddle their cavity causing products in an encylopedia. PP Jewel 19:20, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
    • comment: we'd better remove all articles about unhealthy things and their producers then. Ianb 21:17, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Fascinating stub (and delicious product), and this one at least was not created as an advert. Deal with the others by normal processes. I suspect the eventual result may be to merge them all to Ferrero (chocolate) as redirects, we will see. Such merges with redirect do not require a VfD listing, of course. If treckies can have their pages, I don't see why we chocoholics can't have ours! Andrewa 19:31, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. There are plenty of aticles on other products/brands. Such articles at the very least present a reference for those outside the culture familiar with the prodcuct who may have seen reference in a movie or literature. Additional infomation then provides wider information to students of business/maketing and anyone who may just be interested in the origins or vaireties of a product they use.
  • Keep. References for some claims would be good, but it's not an ad - David Gerard 19:51, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Well-known, established product, plenty of precedents Pringles, Mars_bar etc. Ianb 21:17, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep - the OP's reason for requesting deletion is correct but not valid. - TB 22:11, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep rewrite. The Italian version was a copyvio, BTW. And my wife loves these things! - Lucky 6.9 03:37, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
    • Okay, I missed something, I think. Are you saying that every brand name of every product is encyclopedic? I'm looking at What Wikipedia is not, and I would think that goes against item 2 (for starters) in the section What Wikipedia entries are not, because right now Mon Chéri is nothing more than the product description equivalent of a dictionary entry, and I don't really see any way for it to ever be more. I'm willing to change this opinion with a bit of persuasion, but nothing above is at all persuasive. - Kenwarren 03:44, Jul 25, 2004 (UTC)
    • Or, to put it another way (and steal a phrase from a different discussion) I don't see any way that an article about a single brand of a single product can ever be a verifiable, neutral non-stub, unless that brand has reached the status of a generic term for the entire product family, i.e. kleenex. - Kenwarren 04:02, Jul 25, 2004 (UTC)
      • I'd have to question why not? It seems to me that the facts in that article are neutral (it certainly doesn't have the ring of advertising, nor does it make claims as the the quality of the product); it seems verifiable (by people going to the movies in europe); and it's not even that stubby. What's wrong with the current entry? [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 20:18, 2004 Jul 25 (UTC)
        • I don't expect to open an encyclopedia and find every brand of candy known to man in it. If this one is in, then so should be every other candy, which will amount to thousands of articles about candies. Including too much marginal material runs the risk of diluting the content of Wikipedia to the point where it's no longer useful. - Kenwarren 12:55, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC)
          • I disagree. It's very hard to see what kind of damage this is doing; disk space is cheap, and there's nothing else with this name. [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 13:11, 2004 Jul 27 (UTC)
  • Keep. bbx 13:40, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. delete Mon Chérie FiP 09:46, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Can hardly believe I'm reading this. nach0king 14:01, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Comment: I've been looking into Mon Chéri. I found out a couple of things. First, it's a brand name for an entire line of chocolate confections, not just chocolate covered cherries. So the article as it stands is somewhat inaccurate, since it represents Mon Chéri as a specific chocolate confection. Second, as far as I can tell, at this time the chocolate covered cherries aren't available worldwide. I certainly can't find a source for them in the US, and a local independent high-end chocolate shop says that the only way they can get them is ordering them from a European distributor in October. - Kenwarren 12:55, Jul 27, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Food is encyclopedic. Academic Challenger 00:20, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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