Talk:Molor
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Is he ever mentioned at all in episodes or movies? (I assume "He has not been in any episodes or movies" means no, but maybe that just means he has never appeared on screen.) The books aren't usually considered canonical, so should this be an article? Adam Bishop 03:30, 4 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Yes -- I just added a reference
Although it is alternatively spelled Molar
Raul654 05:45, 4 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Well... Molor is the name of the original Klingon leader, from when the FIRST Kahless was around. He may also be the name of someone else.
Quote "As seen in the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode Firstborn, Kahless himself ultimately kills Molor using a Bat'leth." Was this a flashback or a memeory, or did this HAPPEN in the 24th century? Qaless
It was an operatic re-enactment
Raul654 14:35, 4 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Ok, Kahless invented the first Bat'leth (the sword of Kahless) and he used one to kill Molor. But did they ever say that the two were the one and the same?
That the Sword of Kahless and the first Bat'leth were one and the same? Yes. I forget the name of the TNG episode, but Worf is standing on a volcano in the holodeck, when he's interrupted by Picard. Picard says what are you doing, Worf replies yadayada, I'm watching Kahless make the first Bat'leth out of a lock of hair, and Worf explains the process that Kahless goes about doing this.
Qaless 14:23 Sep 4 2003
I remember what you are saying -- The episode you are thinking of is Rightful Heir (TNG Sixth season). They (The high priests of Stovol Kohr) said they would use the story of how the first bat'leth was made to tell the true reincarnation of kahless from the false ones. But I do not remember them saying that the Sword of Kahless was the one used to kill Molor. Does anyone know what exactly they said? Raul654 22:40, 4 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I personally don't remember them saying anything about it, but the Sword of Kahless wasn't lost until after he ousted Molor...
Qaless 17:58 Sep 4 2003
Here's what I think it boils down to. The sword of kahless -- is it the first bat'leth ever made, the one Kahless used to kill Molor, both, or neither? The two times they talk about it are in the episode Sword of Kahless in DS9 and in Birthright in TNG. But what *exactly* do they say? I think people are making the assumption that it's the one he killed molor with, and that isn't necessarily true.
Raul654 02:36, 5 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Actually, the 'people' are just me. I will try to check tomorrow and see what they say in those episodes. Until then, I don't know...
Qaless Sep 4 2003 22:21
