Talk:Moleskine
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At around 23:54, 21 Nov 2004 UTC, Pedant found the following in the sandbox:
- Moleskine (mol-a-skeen'-a) is a style of notebook claimed to be used by famous artists and writers, such as Picasso, Matisse, Hemingway, and most famously Bruce Chatwin. A moleskine notebook is bound in oilcloth-covered cardboard and has an elastic band to hold pages closed. The notebook lays flat when opened. A moleskine notebook has a romantic image as a traveler's notebook of choice, mostly due to Chatwin's heavy endorsement during his own many travels. (He used to get all of his notebooks from a small store in Paris.)
- The modern moleskines are manufactured by Modo & Modo of Italy.
- Chatwin's original source of notebooks dried up in 1986, when the owner of the stationer where he purchased them died. The modern moleskine is fashioned after Chatwin's descriptions of the notebooks he used and are not a direct descendant. It is not clear that any of the famous writers and artists Modo & Modo claim used "moleskines" used the same style of notebook that Chatwin did, though there is evidence that they used some kind of "pocket notebook."
- Moleskines have an almost cult-like following today, and at around US$11 for a single 3.5x5.5" 192 page lined notebook, they would almost have to.
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[edit] Comments from 203.216.105.47
Why are this company's products being advertised in the Wikipedia?
The whole myth of the "moleskine" is marketing BS. This site has details: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/A1113346
I wouldn't be surprised if the Moleskine marketing people turned out to have written this entry.
The term "moleskine" is not a generic term for a sort of notebook. It's a trademark of this particular company. Bruce Chatwick did not use a "moleskine"--he used a notebook. All references to "Moleskine" should be capitalized. Nobody shoule be credited with using or liking Moleskine unless they actually used this particular company's brand of notebook.
-- 203.216.105.47, 19:16, 5 Jun 2005 UTC
- I just finished reading Bruce Chatwin's Songlines. He talks at some length about Moleskine notebooks and names the brand specifically. I came here to find out what the product is and I am very pleased to see the extensive coverage and full details. There are many perfectly valid pages about consumer products in Wikipedia. This is one of them. The fact that the original manufacturer died and the product was revived by another company using descriptions by Chatwin and other writers does not invalidate the article, especially since the fact that this happened is prominently mentioned. Jules Siegel 21:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- This product is being "advertised" because it is popular enough and used by enough people to warrant its own article. I believe the article contains sufficient criticism of Modo & Modo's advertising. If you do not agree, please feel free to change the article (though keep in mind that POV edits will be changed or reverted). --bdesham 01:39, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I have to agree that Moleskine warrants its own page. There are enough fan sites and supporters of its productst that it has formed its own little circle. This is comparable to other people who enjoy cars and discuss the horsepower and model and prices, though if people started forming charts of information of a companys car models and pricing, i dont think we could accuse it of advertisement, for it is being factual, just as this is. And is not this entire project to be as factual and truthfull as it can be? arent we as contributors supposed to supply as much info on the world as correctly as possible? maybe i was wrong and we're only supposed to put in what others see correct and leave out what others just dont like.
[edit] Moleskine in Popular Culture
This section is unencyclopaedic and serves little value in the article, particularly as it is becoming home to little more than speculative commentary; indeed the most recent contribution specifically stated that the volume in question was not a Moleskine! I would suggest that it is removed, Chatwin and Van Gogh are reasonable to discuss in text, being associated with the marketing campaign, the rest is superfluous.ALR 08:33, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- OK, this has been a month with no response. Given that there is no support for leaving them in I'm removing the popular culture section.ALR 18:13, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
