Talk:Mojave Desert
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Strong B page with NPOV. could easily reach GA status, but needs a little expansion, maybe some more history and definitely more refs. Anlace 23:29, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
This article is so full of holes. Get a clue.
[edit] Spelling
So, clearly Mohave Desert and Mojave Desert are alternative forms and both deserve to be in Wikipedia. The question is: which one should be the main page and which should be the redirect?
I googled "Mojave Desert" and got 120K hits, while "Mohave Desert" got 5020 hits.. I respectfully suggest that "Mojave Desert" be the main page and "Mohave Desert" be the redirect.
Comments? -- hike395 21:14 8 Jun 2003 (UTC)
- I agree. Mohave is an old Anglicization that is no longer widely used in English. --mav 21:18 8 Jun 2003 (UTC)
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- Done. If there is more controversy, let's discuss it at Talk:Mojave Desert -- hike395 21:26 8 Jun 2003 (UTC)
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- FYI, Mojave is the California usage, and Mohave is the Arizona usage (as in Mohave County, Arizona and the Mohave Indians of Arizona). Why the "j" form is used more than the "h" form could be due to Spanish language influence of California users of the word - who probably vastly outnumber the Arizona users. Of course both spellings are correct in their respective states (and I'm not even getting into how Nevadans spell the word). 209.221.223.88 17:37, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC) avnative
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- How? (Or was that just a joke about Nevadans spelling it differently?) --Menchi 20:44, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)
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- That was a wry comment on the spelling (and educational) level of the Nevadans I've met. --avnative 13:41, Aug 6, 2004 (UTC)
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- Still, one spelling needs to be the article title, the other the redirect. Wikipedia custom seems to take the most common usage/spelling as the title name. Given that both are represented in the encyclopedia, I think it is as even-handed as possible. --- hike395 02:40, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)
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One thing that may be tripping people up in the spelling is that there is a town in Arizona called Fort Mohave. Fort Mohave, just south of Bullhead City, Arizona and east of Needles, California is actually in the Sonoran Desert is Needles. Bullhead City, oddly enough, as is actually in the Mojave Desert. CrazyJae 02:40, 15 Dec 2006
[edit] Coachella valley preserve
Tim Shell, I appreciate your fine photography recently added to this article. However, with all due respect, according to my own personal knowledge (and after checking around some other intenet sites) it's actually located in the Colorado Desert aka Low Desert in the Palm Springs area. Would you like to place your photo in one of those locations (I'd recommend Colorado Desert) before too long? I'll wait for your reply before taking any action. Thanks! --avnative 13:41, Aug 6, 2004 (UTC)
- Go ahead and move it where you think it belongs - since I'm apparently not sure. User:TimShell
Um, guys, the Cocahella Valley is actually located in the Sonoran Desert. A map is here Map of the Sonoran Desert-- it's a common mistake people make. CrazyJae
[edit] Dimensions
The Mojave ... occupies a significant portion of Southern California and parts of Utah, Nevada, Oregon and Arizona Oregon??? I can't believe this. ~~Lars August 10, 2005
- Believe it (but not the Oregon part). I llve in the Mojave and I can tell you climatically and horticulturally, there are similarities in lands just south of Goldfield, Nevada, just west of Kingman, Arizona and just west of St. George, Utah. They all look the same. There's a reason! They are all part of the same Mojave Desert climate and ecosystem. Furthermore, I've read a book on the subject from the Palmdale City Library which mapped out the Mojave Desert to reflect the fact that parts of Nevada, Utah and Arizona are part of the Mojave Desert along with a good part of Southern California. I'd be glad to retrieve it again and cite it for this article, if you still beg to differ. Thanks. --avnative 06:10, September 4, 2005 (UTC)
- Noticed, that Oregon was added recenttly by an IP. I reverted that. ~~Lars August 10, 2005
- Good job! --avnative 06:10, September 4, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Paris, Texas
Travis is found in the Texas desert, not the Mojave. I believe a few scenes were shot in the Cabazon, CA area (which is technically not the Mojave desert, either), but the primary filming locations for the desert scenes were in Texas. The car journey- a trip from the Texas/Mexico border to Los Angeles- mentioned in the article takes places mostly through Texas, New Mexico, and southern Arizona. I'm going to go ahead and remove the reference, as the film has little to do with the Mojave at all.
[edit] Nevada desert
Is there a geographicall term Nevada Desert? I see quite a few places writing about the Nevada desert. Some places are clearly mistaken in that they clearly speak about the Mojave Desert (e.g., those that write about nuke tests).
Any comments? `'mikka (t) 00:20, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
You're right. "Nevada desert" is just plain speaking. Not a scientific term. Shouldn't be anyway.
Most of Nevada is part of the Great Basin Desert. Burning Man is held north of Reno, and is in the Great Basin Desert.
Las Vegas, on the other hand is part of the Mojave Desert.
The Nevada Test Site, where I think most of the atomic testing took place is only an hour north of Las Vegas. Near Ellis Airforce Base. I'm not sure where the deserts meet.
The main difference I know of the two deserts is that along the 15 which crosses the Mojave there is plant life. Joshua Trees and tons of smaller brush. There are large rocks, which driving by, look like pumice.
Along the 80,(From Reno to the grayish horizon) there is smallish vegetation. In long stretches nothing more than cracked, parched dirt.
Metra 23:59, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
- In the contexts where I've seen it, "Nevada desert" is a convenient informal term that just means "any desert in Nevada" - avoids needing to figure out whether Yucca Mountain is in the Mojave Desert, which parts of Nevada are Great Basin Desert vs generic sagebrush steppe, etc. Stan 01:52, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Units
I know the US is reluctant to join the 21st century but there are too many imperial units used on this page. It is a scientific page and should therefore be in metric units with the old out-dated impaerial units in brackets if required. Although its not really needed as the entire globe now uses metric with the exception of the US. For instance Clarke Mountain is 2,416m high. I now it doesn't sound as high as 7,929ft but trust me it is.
- A page on a desert is "scientific"? Kind of a stretch. Anyway, this has been debated to death already, and your note isn't going to magically change anybody's minds. Stan 17:13, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Photos
What does a photo of a hospital in a town in the Mojave Desert do to help the reader visualize the Mojave Desert? MojaveNC 06:47, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
This page is garbage with out references. Also it appears no one has a clue as to why the desert has two spellings. If the site were properly referenced, it would be obvious. Nice photos, but anybody can do that. Also where are the reference pages to the NPS sites the maps and photos were acquired from??? Shoddy work.
