Talk:Mohammad Taqi Mesbah-Yazdi

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[edit] Recent changes

I added subject headings and reorged text under them. I think this adds clarity. I added a few cites and some material. I need to come back and consolidate the refs. Elizmr 17:23, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] To Be Frank but Polite

I deleted all bad words from discussion page. farhoudk 05 December 2006

Thanks. I could not understand all of them, but the ones I could understand were clearly inappropriate. Elizmr 22:29, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] cite needed tags

Someone placed "cite needed" tags in sentences that are referenced already. This is not appropraite editing. Please see WP:CITE Elizmr 23:42, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV tag

Could someone please say why the NPOV tag has been placed? Please read WP:NPOV before replying if you haven't already. Elizmr 23:42, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Dear Elizmr

Thank you for your comments. Please be advised that:

1. Issuing a Fatwa can be done by a mufti or Marja only, but he is none of them.

2. Returning back to the values of the 1979 Islamic Revolution: He was not a serious supporter for the Islamic revolution before it and after it until the end of life of Ayatollah Khomeini. In fact it is an election propaganda made by partisans of his party to show him being revolutionary clergy, but only after the revolution! His opinions about Islamic state is completely different with the ideas of Ayatollah Khomeini. please see religious democracy.

3. Mohsen Gharavian is correct not the name mentioned in the article.

4. Decisions about use of Nukes is not in the hands of the president in Iran but it is up to decisions of Supreme Leader who is commander-in-chief according to Iranian constitution.

I regret to say that the writer of this article is in political and religious bias.

farhoudk 5:30, 06 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, Thanks for answering. I'm not disagreeing with you, but in order to meet Wikipedia standards we need to rely on sources conforming with WP:V. If you have cites (preferably in English so readers can refer to them and evaluate) to support what you are saying above, please it to the article so we can achive NPOV on this article. Obviously, what is here is only part of the truth. Elizmr 22:28, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

• He is not introduced as a Marja yet enabling him to issue any fatwa: The best reference for this is his official web site with following address. http://www.mesbahyazdi.org/ There is not any resalah known to be related to him. And since he is mainly a philosopher ^[1] and not a faqih, it will never become a reality in the future. The word fatwa should not be used to express his ideas.

I can't read in Farsi. However, I found nothing on his English Website stating that he is not trained in Islam. 2+2=5 is false. This person has spent a lifetime on Islam.--Patchouli 19:57, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

• There is no evidence for his involvement in the 1979 Islamic revolution of Iran exept being student in Qom city. No jail, no exile, no torture by SAVAK, no declaration against Shah etc. exist in his biography in his web site.

• The values of 1979 Islamic revolution: This term is not defined in the article. No body can underestand if it is relates to good things or bad things!

Farhoudk 20:05, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Mesbah Yazdi is highly qualified to issue fatwas.--Patchouli 19:42, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Professor Crocodile

I think it would be good to give the actual cartoon a place on the page. Here is one site that claims to have the cartoon [1]. There may be others, but the point is that if we can get an good-to-use image of the cartoon, it would add a lot to that section. The Behnam 19:08, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Nikahang Kowsar was arrested for his depiction of "Professor Crocodile", a reptilian academic who was shown strangling a journalist with his tail. The cartoon has been interpreted as a reference to Ayatollah Mesbah Yazdi, leader of fundamentalism in Iran

Here it is --Rayis 00:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC)