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RfA thanks

Hi Moe Epsilon, I am very thankful to you for supporting my succesful RfA. Shyam (T/C) 06:58, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Hi Moe, and thanks very much for your support during my recent RfA, which succeeded with a final tally of 64/0/0. I am grateful for the overwhelming support I received from the community, and hope I will continue to earn your trust as I expand my participation on Wikipedia. It goes without saying that if you ever need anything and I can help, please let me know. Wait, I guess it does go with saying. ; ) --cholmes75 (chit chat) 22:18, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Template for sprotect

I'm not sure I agree that this is a good template; I think the wording on the current one could just be tweaked a bit. Current sprotected:

Because of recent vandalism or other disruption, editing of this user talk page by unregistered or newly registered users is currently disabled. Such users may discuss changes, request unprotection, or create an account.

My proposed version:

Because of recent vandalism or other disruption, editing of this user talk page by unregistered or newly registered users is currently disabled. Editing of this page is restricted to user accounts over 4 days old. Any user may discuss changes, request unprotection, or create an account.

What do you think of this proposed change?? Let me know on my talk page. --SunStar Net 00:42, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Your statement

Hi Moe, this is Konstable. We've met, I've undeleted all your user and talk pages after you've returned, remember? Your RfAr statement is lacking a lot of accuracy, apart from the magical autoblock that you've striken already. I suggest you keep out of an issue you know nothing about. If you do want to continue, go ahead, but I just find it rather bizare that someone lodges such accusations against me when everything on Wikipedia is logged and can be proven false. I won't bother correcting all of them as that would mean I have to look for diffs and people are already screaming disruption for every edit I make (Regarding you and others telling me to leave, would you just drop and leave if people spit you in the face and told you that you were a vandal and a troll? Even if you had no intention of returning, would you allow people to tarnish your image and make your 000s of contribs seem worthless because of something that has never happened? )--Konst.ableTalk 12:31, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

(Oh the easiest accusation: Meanwhile he made non-sense edits on his userspace like typing "ZOMG FUCK SEX FUCK SEX" (diffs deleted) - this simply has never happened)

Thanks for your input!

Thank you for taking part in my RfA. The RfA was not successful, mostly because I did a pretty bad job of presenting myself. I'll run again sometime in the next few months, in the hopes that some will reconsider.

In the meantime, one of the projects I'm working on is A Wikimedia Administrator's Handbook. This is a wikibook how-to guide intended to help new administrators learn the ropes, as well as to simply "demystify" what adminship entails. If you are an administrator, please help out with writing it, particularly on the technical aspects of the tools. Both administrators and non-administrators are welcome to help link in and sort all of the various policies regarding the use of these tools on wikipedia in particular (as well as other projects: for example, I have almost no experience with how things work on wiktionary or wikinews). Users who are neither familiar with policy or the sysop tools could be of great help by asking questions about anything that's unclear. The goal is to get everything together in one place, with a narrative form designed to anticipate the reader's next question.

A second project, related but not entailed, is a book on wikimedia in general, with a history of how various policies evolved over time, interesting trivia (e.g., what the heck was "wikimoney" about?), and a history of how the wikimedia foundation itself came about and the larger issues that occurred during its history (such as the infamous "Spanish Fork").

Again, thanks for your input on the RfA, and thanks in advance for any help you might be able to provide for the handbook. --SB_Johnny|talk|books 14:40, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Templates

I made the necessary changes to Sprotected template here:

  • User:SunStar Net/Templates/Sprotect2

It looks a lot better than the original does! --SunStar Net 16:47, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

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Shiny new buttons

Two weeks ago I couldn't even spell administratur and now I are one (in no small part thanks to your support). Now that I checked out those new buttons I realize that I can unleash mutant monsters on unsuspecting articles or summon batteries of laser guns in their defense. The move button has now acquired special powers, and there's even a feature to roll back time. With such awesome new powers at my fingertips I will try to tread lightly to avoid causing irreversible damage and getting into any wheel wars. Thanks again and let me know whenever I can be of use.
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Dalbury's RfA

My RfA passed with a tally of 71/1/0. Thank you very much for your support. I hope that my performance as an admin will not disappoint you. Please let me know if you see me doing anything inappropriate. -- Donald Albury 10:31, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Konstable

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Konstable. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Konstable/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Konstable/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --Srikeit (Talk | Email) 05:49, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Your thoughts on this?

A discussion here: Talk:Survivor_Series_(2006)#Listing_the_Champions.3F needs to be clarified. The basics of it: some people don't want champions listed for tag matches and/or elimination matches that don't involve the title, while others wanted it listed. My stand on the matter is they should be listed. In a tag match or elimination match or whatever match it might be, it's obvious the title isn't on the line (unless stated in a special stipulation). There is no reason to ignore their championship status, just because the title isn't on the line. Non-title matches still list them as champions, tag matches are in theory non-title matches as well. I made this same post on the pro wrestling project talk page about it, and I'm hoping to get others to respond. RobJ1981 00:03, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for the Support

I'd like to express my huge thanks to you, Moe, for your support in my recent RfA, which closed with 100% support at 71/0/1. Needless to say, I am very suprised at the huge levels of support I've seen on my RfA, and at the fact that I only had give three answers, unlike many other nominees who have had many, many more questions! I'll be careful with my use of the tools, and invite you to tell me off if I do something wrong! Thanks, Martinp23 14:34, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Release Lillywhite Recordings Campaign

Hi,

How are you?

I am proposing that the following article: Release Lillywhite Recordings Campaign be deleted. There is no proof that this campaign led to the recording of Busted Stuff, or was acknowledged by the DMB or RCA people. While the campaign was mentioned in Rolling Stone and Entertainment Weekly, I don't think that is grounds enough to have a separate article. Please comment on the Talk page. Thanks. Milchama 17:48, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your support!

A week ago I nominated myself, hoping to be able to help Wikipedia as an administrator as much as a WikiGnome. I am very glad many others shared my thoughts, including you. Thank you for your trust! Be sure I will use these tools to protect and prevent and not to harass or punish. Should you feel I am overreacting, pat me so that I can correct myself. Thanks again! ReyBrujo 19:05, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

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Ummm...

still faill to see?  Glen  05:52, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Its Young Kitten a page blanking vandal, and he's created 10 socks today alone [1]. Why so curious?  Glen  05:58, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Want to help with this task?

Professional wrestling promotion is in need of major cleanup. I think the page should describe promotions in general: how a promotion is run, agents, owners, backstage and so on. The page currently has a small description, followed by a huge list of promotions. In the huge list is many redlinks and non-notable promotions (I've went through it recently and did some cleaning though). I've yet to see a list page of promotions, so perhaps one could be made? On it, notable big promotions (WWF/E, WCW, TNA and so on), plus notable indy feds, and that's all I see that is needed (since Wikipedia isn't a guide to every promotion ever, but many editors have turned the professional wrestling promotion page into a place to spam and list any and every promotion it seems). Any suggestions? RobJ1981 07:42, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Also, promotions in Category:Professional wrestling promotions should be gone through a bit and checked for notability. I've went through some in the past, and started going through it again recently. 172 pages, 15 sub categories for it... seems a bit much to me. There is obvious promotions that should stay, then the not so obvious.. such as UK promotions and indy promotions (which I don't know alot about). Many non-notable could be moved (if they aren't already in it) to a wrestling Wiki. I will do alot more for it tomorrow as well. RobJ1981 08:00, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
List of professional wrestling promotions should be the new article for this task. One page does the job, doesn't it? Otherwise the list page could always branch out if needed, but in my opinion it doesn't. USA, Canada, England, Mexico and Japan are the countries with the most promotions, but one article can serve that well I would imagine. According to country and if it's inactive or active is how I think it should be setup. Active promotions at the top, inactive at the bottom. Sources will be needed, so people don't mark it as listcruft. Obsessed with Wrestling and other sites are usually reliable. RobJ1981 17:11, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
I started the page, it's just a copy and paste as a start. If I did just from scratch, it could be speedied in my opinion... since it would small. I don't have much time before I leave for Thanksgiving lunch. Feel free to add some, as I can do much more once I get back. It needs more sources, I added just Obsessed with Wrestling. RobJ1981 17:25, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
So we don't have to go back and forth between two talk pages, I've created a talk page post at the new article of List of professional wrestling promotions. On a side note, I almost won 200 dollars TWICE on a lottery ticket. It was done in tic tac toe style, and I needed one X or one O, and I would've won 200 dollars. It was only a $1 ticket! That ticks me off. So close, but so far. RobJ1981 23:34, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
All promotions that are just links should be gone as well, good catch. I forgot about those promotions on the huge list. RobJ1981 18:19, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't think the initials for each promotion help or not. It's clear what the initials of each promotion is, by the name.. so it's not helping much listing initials for all promotions. What do you think? The promotions by country categories are a good idea, I would probably just go with Mexico, Japan, USA, United Kingdom and Canada at this point. Speaking of Canada, do you know alot about the current version of Stampede? If you look through it's cat, alot of people in Stampede (past and present) have the Stampede roster category in their articles. An accurate roster article needs to be made, as per how WWE, TNA and other promotions rosters are setup as articles... not just a category full of each article for the wrestlers. RobJ1981 18:34, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
It looks much neater now, good job. Now we need to probably go through many of the promotions and find sources. I've put unsourced tags on several of the promotions pages I wasn't completly sure of (and ones that had no links on it, and so on). RobJ1981 00:58, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
The table format works good, hopefully people can edit it well... without people have to fix it everytime. I've seen tables get messed with many times on other articles, but I think this is the best option for the page and makes it neater. RobJ1981 04:07, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Kevin Barry (playwright)

Done. Looks like a double redirect in there. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 08:48, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Highboy Lane

It was deleted by Glen S before I had submited the tag, so I ended up remaking the page (The deletion log) ShakingSpirittalk 21:29, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

List of professional wrestling stables and tag teams

List of professional wrestling stables and tag teams. Cluttered listcruft. A rename to just stables would be much better, seeing as there is too many teams throughout the history of wrestling. Even just the notable ones would flood the article. A tag team and stable are clearly two different things, this list makes it sound like they are the same. Tag team = 2 wrestlers with (or without a manager). Stable = several wrestlers with (or without a manager). I've tried to maintain the list somewhat, but I've come to realize it's a huge mess that needs a new name and re-organizing. A TNA teams and stables list wouldn't be so bad, but then people would want a WWE one (which would be insanely too long), so that's out. Any ideas you can give me, so I can start on it? This is just a heads up for when you have time. If I have some suggestions, I can start on it at least.RobJ1981 06:06, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

No response? Maybe you forgot to read this. RobJ1981 23:55, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

RE: Sprotect2

My bad. I haven't heard of sprotect2 before. I thought it just removed itself or something. I didn't see the little lock logo in the upper right corner. Again, my bad. Blacklist 02:31, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I do not know how to put in a request for protection. Could you tell me how. Thank you. User: Big Boss 0

  • I have put it on the request for protection page. could you check and see if I did it right. Thank you for your help. User: Big Boss 0
  • Once again thank you for your help. Check out my user page sometime and leave a comment or 2 on how to improve it. But Please do not edit it.User: Big Boss 0

Congratulations!!!!

You have recieved the Big Boss award for aiding me. This is my special way of thanking those for their help. I am new to wikipedia and I will take all of the help that I can get!!! Thank you!! User: Big Boss 0

Once again thank you for the help! I now can award you with the actual trophy!!! User: Big Boss 0

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RfA thanks

I would like to express my appreciation of the time you spent considering my successful RfA. Thankyou Gnangarra 13:16, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Proposal

I know you told me not to comment here, but please hear me out.

The arbitration case has gone beyond having any value. I have long given up my +sysop, and the case was accepted to hear whether I need to go through RfA again - but I do not oppose that, I was assuming that would be the case when I gave up my +sysop, and I have no intention of going back to being an admin (even if I do return here). Now the problem with AltUser was over more than 3 weeks ago when the account was blocked and unblock request deleted. Sure as hell I won't be repeating that again, and this is not an ongoing problem now is it?

About Ryushort, I don't even know what to say, I know you think it is me, but even so Ryulong himself does not care (and does not want this arbitration case) and it is clear from my off-wiki conversations with him that he holds no grudge against me.

Now there is no open issue here, is there a point in getting the ArbCom to spend time going over a dead case? This case has wasted enough time already, why don't we just decide to put it to rest? --Konstable II 13:55, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/United Wrestling Association

Hello Moe (good to see you around). The AfD on United Wrestling Association has concluded without consensus. I'm letting you know as you had indicated a willingness to help clean up the article. Best, Mackensen (talk) 16:49, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your support at RFA

I wasn't going to send thank-you cards, but the emotional impact of hitting WP:100 (and doing so unanimously!) changed my mind. So I appreciate your confidence in me (especially from such a Wikipedian in long standing), and hope you'll let me know if I can do anything for you in the future, though I somehow doubt it for some time to come... Cheers! -- nae'blis 22:39, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

So, I was looking at your game, and decided to try it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Trosk/Moe%27s_Game

I know, I have a very wide range of music >_>

You like? Trosk 00:12, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for informing me!

Oh hey, yeah when I added that tag I just saw that the protected tag was removed when it was still protected. I thought someone had simply removed sprotected. I had never seen sprotect2 before at the time so i was a bit confused. I thought sprotect2 just added sprotected to the category since I didnt notice the little lock on the top. Anyways I actually like sprotect2 more thanks for clearing things up :) Valoem talk 00:37, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

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My RfA

Oh, the humanity!

I had my doubts about accepting a nomination for a second RfA, but even I couldn't have predicted the stir it caused as it drifted to the ground in flames! Still, it was as educational as ever. Thanks for your input; it will be on my mind as I continue to edit Wikipedia, and perhaps I will have earned your support if another nomination comes around. Kafziel Talk 14:58, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for voting in my RfA, I passed. I appreciate your input. Please keep an eye on me(if you want) to see if a screw up. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 16:41, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Sprotect2

So I guess you agree with me that YTMND is going to be pretty much indefinitely semi-protected? MESSEDROCKER 21:42, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I meant "indefinitely semi-protected" as in how George W. Bush is pretty much permanently semi-protected except the very rare grace periods that occasionally come along for the sake of Allowing Everyone to contribute. MESSEDROCKER 21:54, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Is the Sprotect2 template meant to be invisible? It seems to have content that is meant to appear on the pages it tags, when I look at that by using "edit" (I didn't change anything, or even save, but just looked), but is not visible on any of the pages it tags, at least among the ones I looked at. -- Lonewolf BC 22:42, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

(Your answer, brought over from my talk page. For the sake of conversational coherence, please answer me here if you choose to answer. Lonewolf BC)
It's not invisible. See the top right corner where there is a lock Image, it links to the policy page. Tell me if you still don't see it. semper fiMoe 22:49, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Oh. Yeah, I see it now. I guess my monitor is slightly out of adjustment; the lock icon is was half out of view, at the edge of the screen. I think a better place for the icon would be just to the right of the article-title. I don't know whether that is possible. Either that or make the icon bigger. It's too inconspicous as and where it is (even aside for my monitor-adjustment problem). Cheers. -- Lonewolf BC 23:11, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't know if I can adjust to it to where it will reach the article's name or not considering the length of every articles name is different. I will however increase the size a little to make it more noticeable. Cheers! :) semper fiMoe 23:14, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Removal on AN/I [2]

Hi, I think that comment by LC should stay,[3] maybe struck through or labelled as a PA; because I think (since there are other open issues this editor is contributing to on the AN/I and elsewhere) it speaks to this editor's general mien and way of dealing with those who challenge him. Anchoress 01:16, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I do too. please strike it and label it as the personal attack it is. pschemp | talk 01:19, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

userpage

Hi please don't edit my user page and if you want to take somthing off it please tell me first.-Pediaguy16 01:10, 1 December 20

You can edit other peoples user pages?--Pediaguy16 03:13, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok on other wikis they will ban you if edit someone's user page.--Pediaguy16 03:18, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok sorry I still need to get use to this site.--Pediaguy16 03:34, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh I have another account called lostdude815 I just wanted to tell people that becuase on another wiki they banned me because of having two accounts and I didn't know that was bad.--Pediaguy16 03:43, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

yea--Pediaguy16 03:51, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

yes thankyou.--Pediaguy16 03:59, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok thanks again.--Pediaguy16 04:07, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

A few things up for deletion

Feel free to comment if you want. In my opinion both should go. RobJ1981 19:19, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

User:Vlh

Will you please block this slow-speed vandal for me? He keeps inserting original research into Wikipedia despite warnings on his talk page and a massive discussion of the articles he's adding the text on, Grand Slam Champion and Triple Crown Champion (see history of articles). Consensus at the Pro Wrestling WikiProject and Policy state that unverified facts can't be inserted into Wikipedia. I've went through test4 with him (twice) and he still hasn't gotten the hint yet. semper fiMoe 02:38, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I would suggest taking this to WP:ANI since this isn't an obvious vandalism incident, and since the issue isn't especially pressing. -- tariqabjotu 02:43, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Protected2

Heh, the only reason I changed it was because Kelly Martin told me it looked like crap. Protected2 (maybe with a super duper padlock) would be good :) -- Tawker 03:01, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

button

User:Pediaguy16/Don'tpressbutton

--Pediaguy16 21:36, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Here hold on let me fix it.--Pediaguy16 21:40, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Oh never mind.--Pediaguy16 21:41, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Ehh... sorry if I did something bad - I just wanted to continue the joke. ;) --PaxEquilibrium 11:04, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Nice joke there.

Eh

I'm a victim of an odd mistake... (again?)... Don't you think that I'm the black sheep of Wikipedia? :( --PaxEquilibrium 21:43, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Number of times template used?

I notice that the cutoff has moved down two places since Redux's last edit, and two people have been removed from the list since then (one by you, one by me) - maybe after X number of uses of a template on a single page it just gives out :). Seriously, I don't have any idea what is the problem. We could create an alternate template to use for part of the page, if nothing else works. NoSeptember 21:55, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

The alternate template didn't fix it. After the cutoff, it is recognizing the template as a normal article link, hence linking to the admin mainspace article page. It's beyond me, maybe we should ask at Village Pump:Tech for opinions. NoSeptember 22:23, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
I replaced some templates above the cutoff line during my test, and they worked fine, so there is definitely something magical about the cutoff line. NoSeptember 22:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
We may have to at some point. First though, look at my reply at VP. I also notified Rich. NoSeptember 08:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Reply

Yes, do you? - Deathrocker 19:14, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the band Infernal Majesty, there is no evidence that shows that anybody has ever confused them with the band HIM. They are relitively obscure in comparison, play different styles of music and are from entirely different countries. It looks like a cheap advertisment. Also the term His Infernal Majesty does not direct straight to the band HIM's page anyway. It goes to a disambiguation, thus I shall moved that piece of information there instead.
Also, you brought obscure demos, and compilations into the main article, when it is only supposed to be a brief album discography and then a link to the HIM discography, like the David Bowie article is, for example. I'll make these changes. - 02:30, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

{{Protected2}}

I updated the statements page for the new code. I've only moved that tempalte to sprot for now, as it is brand new and may have room for community involvement. — xaosflux Talk 00:35, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Wrestling tag teams note

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Professional_wrestling#Tag_Team_pages. I wasn't sure if you saw it yet or not. Basically it's a discussion about teams and what should go. I think a mass AFD should be made for many teams. RobJ1981 05:05, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Moral supports

Moral supports are rather insulting. You don't know if the candidate wants your pity. —Centrxtalk • 06:53, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't see as to how it could be rude, to be friendly. Moral support isn't just pity !votes, but rather a friendly gesture to reassure them. We wouldn't want an editor to leave Wikipedia because his final tally there was 0 support and 100 oppose, now would we? I know, I have been shut out completely on my first RFA here on Wikipedia and the aftermath of no one voting support can be a little hard to deal with (I mean you recover and move on, but it's very bitter those first few moments). Cheers! semper fiMoe 06:59, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Not rude, insulting. I don't think "All my support votes were superficial pity votes" is better than "People evaluated my candidacy and decided that I was not qualified for this esteemed position." Also, only 7 hours have passed since the voting has opened; you are essentially saying that you think the election is over for that candidate. If you don't think the candidate should be on the Arbitration Committee, you should not vote to put that person on the Arbitration Committee. —Centrxtalk • 07:05, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Look, I'm not going to sit here and argue that I wasn't intending to be insulting, I'm not trying to insult them, and thats that. But to respond to you, seven hours may have only passed but with as many voters as there have already been on some candidates pages, 0-50 with no support, I don't think it's insulting to give a hand of support. No, they aren't going to be elected into the ArbCom, with that big a difference, I don't see how they could be. As to your last comment about "If I don't wan't them on the ArbCom, then don't vote support", if it's fairly obvious that they aren't going to be elected into the ArbCom, and yes, 7 hours in some show that, I think it's more than acceptable to give them a little bit of happiness that someone supported them. As to your first comment on my talk about how they might not want my pity !vote, in my time here on Wikipedia, I haven't seen anybody respond negatively to a moral support and have seen them leave thank you notes for being so kind as to hand it out. Now, if you excuse me I must be off to better things rather than argue friviously with you over a nonsense topic. semper fiMoe 07:16, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Your message on my talk page

Hello Moe.

On my talk page you posted a message, saying that I have misinterpreted some things here. I will reply to each of your points in order.

  • First, it not disruptive to not respond to another persons comment, rude or incivil in some cases, but not disruptive.
    • Whether disruptive, rude, or uncivil, what is more at stake is that Pediaguy16 is making a WP:HOAX.
  • Edits like this are far more disruptive than letting an issue go.
    • I disagree with you here. I had asked Pediaguy16 over 5 or even 6 times, with no reply. If that's not rude or disruptive, because it was a perfectly legitimate and civil message, then I suggest you read up on Wikipedia talk page guidelines.
  • Adding a userbox is nothing very suspicious, as far as I tell, all you have to do to join is add the userbox, so asking him to remove it until he joins is rather redundant because all he has to do to join is add the userbox or add himself to the category, which the userbox automatically does.
    • Again, you are incorrect. The WP:CVU is a kind of WikiProject dedicated to countering vandals. I do not see Pediaguy16's name in the member category.
  • And I honestly don't know why you changed the "--" in my signature to "--" [1] That was rather pointless. semper fi -- Moe 21:42, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
    • It is my web browser (Dillo) that does this, and I am now using another (Konqueror). See User:Yuser31415/Talk archive 1#Your editor is replacing characters for one case.

Cheers, Yuser31415@?#&help! 22:16, 4 December 2006 (UTC)