User talk:Mlaszlo

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[edit] Welcome

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[edit] Renal failure

You've been rather busy adding one factoid to a large number of pages, namely that bowel prep causes acute and even chronic renal failure. I've removed this for now, because this is absolutely not a typical experience, and you may be attaching a lot of importance to an extremely rare idiosyncratic phenomenon. Before you attempt to reinsert this material, could you provide me with a reliable source (e.g. a medical journal article). Thank you. JFW | T@lk 22:59, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid he's got a point. Phosphate containing bowel preps have indeed been reported to cause acute (and only acute, mark you) in a tiny handful of case reports. As an encyclopedically notable cause of ARF, I'm afraid it's non-notable-unless you can provide evidence to the contrary.Felix-felix 15:18, 24 January 2007 (UTC)


Here is an article you should read on Phospho-Soda as a bowel prep causing renal failure: Markowitz GS, Nasr SH, Klein P et al. Renal failure and acute nephrocalcinosis following oral sodium phosphate bowel cleansing. Human Pathol 2004; 35: 675–684 Then go look at the FDA website: http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/infopage/OSP_solution/science_background.pdf Do your homework on the subject and you'll find that whoever wrote the wikipedia phospho-soda page is SERIOUSLY mistaken about dosing and that taking 3oz of PS is considered an overdose and will likely lead to extreme injury. I am curious as to where this person discovered a single 3oz dose is appropriate?? (please let me know). If you insist on keeping such a limited description of Phospho-Soda up, at least show some responsibility and adequately describe the useage and dosing.

Seen the article thanks, and the FDA article-post mortem cases of nephrocalcinosis aren't terribly compelling evidence to my mind-but this stuff hasn't even made it to review stage-and is (if anything) a vanishingly rare cause of ARF. I have not read or edited the renal phospho-soda page, and am on top of my homework, thanks.Felix-felix 19:18, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
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