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[edit] Lady Cunard

Are you sure about your edit that the Lady Cunard mentioned is the wrong one? The parentage of Nancy Cunard seems to support the statement that the widow of the 3rd Baronet was indeed the person referred to. MisfitToys 22:52, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

  • When you added the link to Nancy Cunard, I failed to note the where the "#" went to. Therefore I thought that I had the wrong Cunard in the first place and removed the endnote that indicated she was a Cunard by marriage whereas Nancy was a born Cunard. Realizing now that I had identified her correctly in the first place, what I should have done (if anything) was just specifically identify her as the former Maud Alice Burke. Am I on the mark now? House of Scandal 23:23, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I think we have it now. MisfitToys 23:35, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

  • By the way, thanks for your interest in the Hazel Lavery article. Until I started expanding the stub, I had no idea about her connections to Michael Collins, etc. It's fun when a subject matter leads us in an unexpected direction. House of Scandal 11:41, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Joe Gordon

I moved the page from Joe Gordon (baseball player) to Joe Gordon if that's ok with you. It's obviously the most well known Gordon as the rest been redlinks for a while. If a article is created on them a dablink can be formed. I'll fix the links. Thanks Jaranda wat's sup 05:56, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I think the move was reasonable, though you should have moved the disambiguation page that was at Joe Gordon to Joe Gordon (disambiguation) first (rather than dimply deleting it in the move), and then moved the article for the baseball figure; it's fixed now, I think. MisfitToys 20:08, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Plum

Hello here's some info on it if you want to add or re-word if it makes sense: Pliny the Elder, implied that the apricot was a kind of plum, and had originally come from Armenia. Thus the scientific name for apricot became the starting point for mythology and verifying narratives to explain the Armeniaca name. Nareklm 00:13, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I've revised it a bit; I think it makes more sense now. MisfitToys 00:21, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] deleting cats

Hi, I see you have been deleting cats from several articles on recently died sports people, can you explain me why? SportsAddicted | discuss 05:41, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I was deleting Category:2007 in American football, not Category:2007 deaths. Individual deaths shouldn't be in this category, since individual deaths aren't entered in similar categories such as 2007 in film or 2007 in science. The more appropriate way to handle this area would be to start a deaths section in the article 2007 in American football (or 2007 in football (soccer), 2007 in NASCAR, 2007 in cricket, etc.). See 2006 in baseball#Deaths for an existing format example. MisfitToys 02:27, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, I do not really agree, but I see your point. SportsAddicted | discuss 05:16, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Part of the problem would be that not only deaths and births, but also individuals with notable achievements in the year (MVP awards, various titles and honors) would get added to the category, resulting in a jumble of names with little way for the casual observer to quickly identify why the person is in the category. I suppose a different solution would be to create subcategories such as Category:2007 sports deaths under the existing deaths category (keep in mind I'm not actually advocating the idea), but I'd strongly suggest you bring up the idea on the Biography Project talk page before going forward with it in order to get some feedback. Also, please don't list every sports death in the 2007 in sports article, or the article gets very unwieldy; 100 to 150 names for the entire year is sufficient (see 2006 in sports#Deaths, for example), with the rest being listed in articles for individual sports. There's a sort of gradual hierarchy to such articles, and not everything needs to be listed in every place. MisfitToys 23:16, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Smith's blue butterfly

Thanks for your careful edits of this article. I have entered a new edit to respond to your good question on Punta Gorda. You are correct that it is a lighthouse in Humboldt County, but it s also a coastal point in S California. cheers. Anlace 05:47, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I added the note because the wikilink went to a disambiguation page for two other Punta Gordas (in Florida and Belize), so the geographic meaning was lost. Thanks for following up. P.S. I've revised the article to create a better link, and added notes to the disambiguation page. MisfitToys 19:27, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Great follow-up MisfitToys to amend this disamb page on Punta Gorda. Best regards. Anlace 20:12, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request for Assistance

I was wondering if you could update the wiki-table of current Governors in the Democratic Governors Association article to reflect the 2006 election results. I would do it myself, but I am not very familiar with wiki-table formatting. --TommyBoy 00:08, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Done. MisfitToys 00:28, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sexism

Hi, MisfitToys. Thanks for the valiant effort to help the Jeannette Piccard article. It looks like it led to a maze of pages and some proposed merges. I wish you luck straightening them all out. I tried to incorporate those into a reworded sentence, a little expanded from your edit, which I am happy to discuss. Thank you also for your expansion of the conflict in the Episcopal Church. Best wishes. -Susanlesch 03:23, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

It's somewhat nonsensical to have multiple pages for sexism, sex discrimination and gender discrimination - particularly since sexual discrimination already redirected to sexism; and it appeared that an editor was trying to make a distinction between sex and gender discrimination based only on their own guidelines. And no offense, but the Piccard article as worded was pretty clearly on the pro-ordination side; the revisions seem fine, as long as both sides and the repercussions are explained. It's important to remember that both views need coverage. (But I'm still not a fan of the "eloquent, intelligent and well-liked" line in the intro, regardless of whether it's accurate.) MisfitToys 03:33, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
I have replaced "eloquent..." with citable descriptions and removed the "kind of POV" comment in the source. Hope that helps. -Susanlesch 00:46, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Yes, better; thanks. MisfitToys 22:09, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] T-34 Tank

We appreciate your copy-editing but this article is up for FA after a year of hard work and you are introducing multiple errors. Please show just a bit more caution. Thank you. DMorpheus 01:57, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Could you be more specific? I'm looking over my edits, and I don't see any problems (here's my main edit of the article). I linked 85mm gun at one point to 'D-10 tank gun#History' because that's where the background of the new gun was discussed, not because the D-10 had an 85mm gun (I think that's the only one of my edits that you reverted). I linked Gorki to Nizhny Novgorod. I linked ZiS-4 to '57-mm anti-tank gun M1943 (ZiS-2)' because both models were discussed there; I linked T-54 to T-55 for the same reason (and later, T-54/T-55 as well). I'm sure I linked all the other guns to the correct articles, and my other edits were pretty straightforward. What are the multiple errors? MisfitToys 20:29, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
I think the vast majority of your edits improved the article. The errors have to do with gun designations. On Feb 4 you wrote that the D-10 was an 85mm gun; the D-10 is a 100mm gun. The 85mm guns on the T-34 were the D-5T, the ZiS-53, and the ZiS-S-53. The KwK 42 75mm gun did not appear in combat in 1942; the KwK 42 is the gun on the Panther, and would not have been seen before july 1943. I imagine you meant the KwK 40, which is the gun on the Pzkw-IV G, and would indeed have been deployed in combat by mid-1942. Finally the KwK 43 was the L/71 gun found on the Tiger II and Jagdpanther. The context of the article is clear that the Tiger I's gun is intended, and that is a KwK 36.
I was initially thrown off by your usage of the term 'torsion beam suspension' but you're not incorrect. I was wrong to think you were in error there.
I hope you continue editing this article. Cheers. DMorpheus 20:58, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Again, I didn't say that the D-10 was an 85mm gun - but the article for the D-10 included the background of the 85mm gun, which is why I linked to the History subsection. MisfitToys 21:01, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scouting

I do appreciate your edit of the article, but the reason we (the Scouting project) don't put country/association specific links of this nature in international scope articles is that the editors from the other countries complain about the article becoming (usually BSA/America) country specific. Rlevse 00:13, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough. MisfitToys 00:14, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Executive Order 9835 - Peer review

Hello. I noticed you had edited the article Executive Order 9835 in the past, which is now up for peer review. Eventually this will be followed by an attempt at Good Article status and maybe one day, FA. Any input and or editing help you could or wanted to contribute would be greatly appreciated. I think the article is good and has the potential to be great. Thanks in advance. A mcmurray 05:05, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Just saw your comment on the peer review page. Well I am all about levelling it out. I think in hindsight, historically speaking, that a lot of the Communist hysteria during that period was whipped up by a combination of factors from both sides of the aisle. I certainly don't want it to sound reflexively cynical. Any ideas and or contributions would be most excellent. And I will continue to research. I have found some additional info about some of the Supreme Court Cases surrounding the order, do you think I should include a sub section in the outcome section?A mcmurray 00:09, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
As a note I have copied this discussion over to the peer review page, if you would like to respond there, that way it will be in the archive.A mcmurray 00:12, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit to Leo T. McCarthy

Any reason you deleted two valid links to this article? For most of his life, McCarty has lived in San Francisco and is a naturalized citizen. Please revert. Ronbo76 21:58, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

My bad. I see you bumped them down. Sorry. Ronbo76 21:59, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lutheran churches

Right now there are very few articles on Lutheran churches, and several have been recently put up for deletion including the one I authored. On the talk page of Holy Cross Lutheran Church (Atwater, California), you wrote about Wikipedia:Notability (local churches and other religious congregations). Does this article qualify in these standards? The same person put the two articles up for deletion, and I couldn't see a difference among other churches not put up for deletion. --Nehrams2020 07:19, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't know if Holy Cross qualifies under the suggested guidelines (which I believe set somewhat too high a bar); you'd be in a better position to answer that, particularly regarding the architecture and local significance. I've noted previously that Holy Cross isn't particularly large for an LCMS congregation in its area, but it's currently the most substantial article for an LCMS church (though it needs better referencing) and has a number of good photos. MisfitToys 19:31, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I added a comment right after you did, and I will be able to add references. I appreciate your comments, I know this church isn't the greatest example of an excellent LCMS church, but I still think the number of LCMS church articles needs to be expanded. I live in San Diego during the college school year, but when I return home for the summer, I can dedicate some time to including references from local newspapers. If when I add the sources and further information you think that it should be deleted as not following the guidelines then, let me know and I'll put it up for deletion then myself. --Nehrams2020 20:29, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] USC Coaches

Hi MisfitToys, I've actually corresponded with you before regarding your excellent work on these pre-McKay coaches. I started most of the stubs on these individuals, thus they are on my watchlist, and was impressed by your remarkable ability to dig up their histories. While there are two left, it's Suffel (co-coach of the 1888 team) that's been the most confounding to me. --Bobak 18:11, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'll give you something I have, which is certainly not enough with which to start an article: California death records list a Frank H. Suffel who died on March 15, 1937 in L.A. County at age 70. If that's him (which seems reasonable), he would have been the same age as Goddard, about 21 in 1888. (Going by other death records, his wife's name may have been Lucia, and she may have died on August 19, 1934.) That's all I have. As for John Walker, I've found virtually nothing to go on, particularly given the common name; USC guides don't even list the college he attended. MisfitToys 19:08, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DNA grammar

The problem is clearer if you remove "help" the old sentence would read

In chromosomes, chromatin proteins such as histones compact and organize DNA, as well as controlling its interactions with other proteins in the nucleus.

The new and problematic sentence would read

In chromosomes, chromatin proteins such as histones compact and organize DNA, as well as control its interactions with other proteins in the nucleus.

Do you see the problem? I'm not good enough at grammar to explain why this is wrong, but I'm pretty sure it is. TimVickers 23:00, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

The problem was in the old sentence as well; try taking out the first verb and subject ("compact and organize DNA") and you get: "In chromosomes, chromatin proteins such as histones controling its interactions with other proteins in the nucleus." That's obviously bad. My revised version, without those four words, would read: "In chromosomes, chromatin proteins such as histones help control its interactions with other proteins in the nucleus." I think we can agree that that's grammatically correct; once you re-add the first section, you get: "In chromosomes, chromatin proteins such as histones compact and organize DNA, as well as help control its interactions with other proteins in the nucleus." Another way to look at it: Start with the following two sentences, and then replace the bracketed (repeated) part of the second sentence with the words "as well as": "In chromosomes, chromatin proteins such as histones compact and organize DNA. [In chromosomes, chromatin proteins such as histones] help control its [DNA's] interactions with other proteins in the nucleus." MisfitToys 23:05, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Winter service vehicle

Hello! Thanks for your copyedit to winter service vehicle. However, the Wikipedia Manual of Style does request that for international subjects, the variant of English used by the creator of the article is retained. It's not a big deal, but plenty of lame edit wars have taken place over this subject, and some editors can get very tetchy if you try to Americanise/Britishise their favourite article. Have a good day! Laïka 20:38, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Fine by me; I was mainly trying to make the wikilinks as simple as possible (changing the spelling to tire rather than formatting the link as [tire|tyre]). MisfitToys 20:42, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I've kept it as tire; some British people do use tire, while very few American people use tyre. Laïka 20:51, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gold Rush ounces

There was a very extended discussion on this very point during the FA process - please see. If I may make a request . . . please don't make any further changes on this the California Gold Rush article for the time being. It goes live as the FA on the Main page in one hour. We are already dealing with substantial vandal traffic. Your forebearance is appreciated! NorCalHistory 23:02, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I see the discussion now; in the absence of identifying which form of ounce this is, there should be a footnote from the word "ounces" explaining the problem, or you'll have other editors doing the same thing I did. MisfitToys 23:08, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Good suggestion, I'll try to slip in a footnote to that effect between the vandals. NorCalHistory 23:18, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to WikiProject Baseball

Hi, and welcome to the Baseball Wikiproject! We are a group of editors who love the sport of baseball and work to improve Wikipedia's coverage of this sport.

There are a variety of interesting things to do within the project; you're free to participate however much—or little—you like:

If you have any ideas you would like to share or if there is any way your fellow baseball editors can help you, please feel free to ask on the project talk page.

--Borgardetalk 23:39, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Recent edits

It is not appropriate to change the date style in an article against the concensus established on the talk page. Please be more circumspect in the future, especially when dealing with national varieties of English and/or date styles, as such unlateral changes are known to provoke edit wars and harsh feelings if not properly discussed beforehand. Thanks for your consideration. Kaldari 18:00, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

As I noted on Talk:Mary Wollstonecraft, there's been no prior discussion or dispute about the date formats in that article, let alone a consensus on the issue. As I also noted, Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Date formats related to topics suggests by inference that if British English is used in the article, then British date formatting should also be used. Articles about British people should use British English, and the date formats should match that. I'm a bit bewildered that some editors are arguing for the use of American English in an article about a British writer. MisfitToys 19:16, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Robert Coleman

I haven't found any information on his birthdate other than November 4th. I will look into it some more. Thanks for the edits. Have a good day! Dincher 21:16, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Randy Stone

"a young gay teenage boy", as opposed to an old gay teenage boy. I didn't catch that when I made the one change. Oh, well. Freshacconci 20:45, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, having seen the film, it seemed to me that the character was possibly 11 or 12 rather than a teenager (I don't recall that his age was specified). MisfitToys 21:59, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wow

WOW, thank you so very much for an excellent copyedit of tomorrow's featured article. It went through a lot of unlinking at FAC, but that was stunning. Thanks.--Alf melmac 21:31, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

My pleasure. MisfitToys 21:34, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for copyediting - classification of transsexuals

Cheers, Lwollert 00:54, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Belated thanks

Oops, should have done this a while ago - very many thanks for the great copyediting you've done on various pages I've started (Agnes Newton Keith, Violet Dickson). Big improvements all round, so, as they say in my neck of the woods, ta muchly for your efforts. Cheers Jasper33 14:14, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Washington Park, Chicago (park) to Washington Park (Chicago park)

I disagree with your move given the general convention at Washington Park (disambiguation) for community areas and parks. Please explain if you have a reason why it should not be moved back on the talk page. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 02:46, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Reply posted at Talk:Washington Park (Chicago park). MisfitToys 03:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ahmad Hasan Dani

I should leave this note of thanks for your excellent copyediting. The article looks so tidy now! --IslesCapeTalk 22:42, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyeditor's barnstar

Hi, I usually have the mainpage featured article listed on my watchlist so I can revert vandalism to it. Over the past months I've seen that your name invariably shows up in the log, making various copyedits to those articles. So when this new barnstar was approved by the community a little while ago, I immediately thought of you as a deserving candidate for it. Just wanted you to know your efforts are noticed and appreciated. Very best wishes, WjBscribe 00:44, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much!! (I've moved the barnstar to my user page.) MisfitToys 00:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Embassy Gulf Service Station

That's the church, thanks. Sorry for not responding sooner, but I've been a bit snowed over with work this past week, and tend to just come home to stare at the computer screen when I can. --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 21:03, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] IL-03

Hi, I just took a look at the Illinois 3d district page. I already split the economy info into its own section and out of the geography section. I also think that having a section on the demographics of the district is important; there's no way to write an article about that district and not mention white ethnics. I will poke around my copy of the Almanac of Amer. Politics and see what I can come up with today. The history section will be harder to find sources for. If you've got any suggestions, why don't we take this to the article talk page? Meelar (talk) 14:57, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Christ, am I really editing Wikipedia again? I guess I am. It's good to be back--I had taken about a yearlong break so I'm very much not-up-to-speed.

The demographic info was something I planned to include when I added a section about political leanings. I've already got the historical boundaries, though it gets a bit difficult to be exact about the Chicago boundaries between 1913 and the 1960s due to the scarcity of precise maps and the fact that district definitions were explained according to now-obsolete ward boundaries; I'm more inclined to indicate a general outline based on the streets which formed most of the north/east/south boundaries. I can compile presidential voting for 1832-1868 based on county totals (the district was outside Cook at that point, and defined along county lines), but 1872 to 1964 is still a problem because of the lack of vote totals for individual Cook County townships and partial Chicago wards (and occasionally, partial precincts); there are a few sources for Chicago voting for president by complete ward, though ironically not by complete districts. The history of voting for House seats is readily available - though there have been 90 elections, so the question becomes how much to include (for instance, Clarence Darrow lost a close race here in 1896, which is certainly worth mentioning). I've tried to look at what's in the articles for other districts, but they're generally quite brief; I've also looked at a few UK constituencies, and Canadian ridings might also be helpful. I'll add this discussion to the talk page. MisfitToys 18:56, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peter Knowles

Regarding Peter Knowles: Perhaps you've double-checked this already, but the article states that in the 1968-69 promotional tour "Wolves represented Kansas City" (linking to Kansas City, Kansas); you should be mindful that Kansas City, Missouri (across the river) is larger and more prominent, and that if only the city name is given, the one in Missouri is more likely. MisfitToys 23:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment, and especially the copy edit. I hadn't double checked whether it was the correct Kansas, in fact, I hadn't checked at all. I just wanted to add a wikilink to the word, so I chose the first Kansas which sprung to my attention. Lazy, if I'm honest. Also, if I'd known the article would have been linked to on the front page, I'd have made sure all the links and grammar were top notch. Ah well, for now I'll just remove the link from Kansas all together, since I don't know which Kansas it is... that is, unless you would like to take an educated guess. My knowledge of American geography is poor, I'll leave it to you. Thanks again, take care! -GilbertoSilvaFan 23:48, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I revised the link to the disambiguation page. MisfitToys 02:11, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you...

... for your helpful edits to the article Noah Lottick. Yours, Smee 02:49, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

My pleasure. MisfitToys 02:11, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Foxy

I'm curious as to why you changed several of the blue links in this article, since they lead to the same exact place they did before your changes. For example, you changed Philadelphia to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania - when you click on the link, it leads to the article for Philadelphia and notes it was redirected from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, which suggests Philadelphia by itself was the more accurate way to do it in the first place. Am I missing something? Thanks. SFTVLGUY2 14:02, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I was generally skipping redirects (links should generally avoid redirect pages); 'Boston', for example, redirects to 'Boston, Massachusetts', and 'choreographed' redirects to 'choreography' (as of a few weeks ago, 'Boston' was merely a disambiguation page). For some reason, the Philadelphia article has apparently dropped the state from the title (a rather nonsensical move, IMO, in contradiction of long-established city naming practices). MisfitToys 18:18, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request

You did such a fantastic job on a page I was editing that you were the first person I thought of for help, sorry about that :p The article Knights Templar is currently undergoing the Featured article process and points raised have been that the text is "too flowery" in places and the History section needing 'tightening up with a some more concise writing'. The editor nominating the article is also actively fixing points as they are raised so some fixes may have already been made and I'm sure your touch would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.--Alf melmac 16:16, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, I've had a go at it. MisfitToys 20:03, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Excellent job, thank you. You came up with links to a few subjects, that I didn't even know we had subjects!  ;) --Elonka 20:16, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Once again, it induces satisfied deep breathing on seeing the diff you made. Many thanks.--Alf melmac 23:29, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 2006 Minnesota Twins

Can you move 2006 Minnesota Twins to 2006 Minnesota Twins season for consistancy. Thank you. ---CWY2190TC 04:06, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Done; I also moved the rest of the series of articles. MisfitToys 22:32, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] congressional districts

I added infoboxes in Minnesota's congressional district articles (e.g. Minnesota's 1st congressional district) and have a couple of questions. Where did you get "white collar", "blue collar", and "grey collar" info for Illinois' 3rd congressional district? For %urban and %rural are you using land area or population? (I used [1] as my source, and chose to use the population numbers.) I really think the template ought to be modified to add another line, (%urban/rural popluation and %urban/rural land area). --Appraiser 14:42, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

In both cases (urban/rural, blue/white/gray), the info was from the Almanac of American Politics 2006. I think we should keep in mind that House members represent people, not land. MisfitToys 22:37, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] La Camisa Negra

Thanks for doing a copyedit of the article. In the future, make sure not to fix links to redirects that aren't broken though. ShadowHalo 22:36, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

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