Talk:Misery (novel)

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Old duplicate version of this article lives in the history of this talk page. jni 13:52, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Novel/Film 2 Split off film? 3 Requested move 3.1 Survey 3.2 Discussion

[edit] Novel/Film

I changed a line in the plot summary to reflect a difference between the novel and the film. In the novel of Misery Paul's book Misery's Child, has already been published and released in paperback. In the film, it appears that MC is still in manuscript form, and that this is the book Annie forces Paul to rewrite. -- 13:02, 17 February 2006 (UTC)~Mademoiselle Sabina.

I noticed the film/novel had been flipped to incorrect information, so I switched it back. In the novel, the unpublished manuscipt Paul carries is his new book--Fast Cars. MC is indeed published and released. One of the reasons Annie goes to Sidewinder in the first place is to see if MC has been released in paperback yet, and King notes that she's reading it on page 32. Mademoiselle Sabina 01:05, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

I made some major edits to the page, trying to make it more concise and less redundant, but I think it still needs work. I'm not knowledgeable enough of the source to make any content changes, but I think there are some major things (especially concerning the ending) that have been left out. If anyone else is better suited to content changes/additions I think this page would benefit greatly from some revision. Telepwn 12:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

The process continues. There were still a few details in the plot summary from the film which differed from contradicted the novel. I fixed the most glaring (Silver Creek Lodge (film) ==> Boulderado Hotel (novel)) but there may be others. Be bold! Ellsworth 00:47, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Split off film?

At the moment this article covers both the novel and the film. Someone has gone ahead and made Misery (film) (the infobox is already filled out for us :-). I think the film info should be split off from here into Misery (film). Assuming no objections, someone should carry that out in a couple of days.--Commander Keane 06:49, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree with that. In fact, I am quite surprised that a film of this notability does not already have its own article. ---Charles 02:45, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

• Misery → Misery (book)
• Misery (disambiguation) → Misery

While having Misery as the main page might've made sense when both the book and film were discussed on the same page, now that they're separate pages and both equally notable (along with a couple other notable pages listed on the disambig page) the main article should probably be the disambig page instead. Maelwys 16:00, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

Add  * '''Support'''  or  * '''Oppose'''  on a new line followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.

• Support as nominator. --Maelwys 16:04, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose - Since the movie is based on the book, I don't see anything wrong with having the book as the primary topic. None of the other "misery" topics are anywhere close to being as notable, and most don't even have articles. --Milo H Minderbinder 16:33, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose - per Milo. --Serge 16:34, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
• Support. While not denying the importance of the book and film, misery remains too common a word to have an established primary meaning, a clear primary topic. On that note, I just added a "See also" section to the disambiguation page. I believe that readers would be served best by having the disambiguation first, with the entire array of meanings, instead of simply being directed to the book/film. It may prove, also, a step in the right direction with regard to countering systemic bias. - Evv 22:46, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
• Weak oppose - per Planet of the Apes. The book came first, even though the movie is more notable. It should be listed that way. Patstuart^{(talk)(contribs)} 02:45, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
• Support - both the film and novel are notable in their own right. Giving each their proper due would make a combined article too long. The film deviates from the novel sufficiently to require its own plot synopsis as well. Mcr29 04:47, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
• Support. When someone links to or searches for "Misery" on Wikipedia, in most cases they aren't looking for the book or the film, but rather the emotion. —Angr 12:28, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

...which they won't find, since there is no article on the emotion, since WP is not a dictionary. Do you guys plan to try and move Friends next? The Graduate? There are probably thousands of articles like this. --Milo H Minderbinder 15:19, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

• Support per Angr. --Elonka 06:15, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
• Support not primary topic. Vegaswikian 03:50, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

So what article on wikipedia is the primary topic for "misery"? --Milo H Minderbinder 14:33, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

There is not always a primary topic. If there is one it must be show to exist. Vegaswikian 20:16, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

Add any additional comments:

It appears that, while the above discussion was going on, someone went ahead and moved the article to Misery (novel). Accordingly, I'm removing the move template, which no longer makes sense, from this talk page. The matter of whether to move this page back to Misery or to move the disambiguation page there remains open. -GTBacchus^(talk) 02:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)