Talk:Minor Harry Potter beasts

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Contents 1 Purpose of This Article 2 Basilisk 3 Norwegian Ridgeback 4 Possible Lethifold Appearance in Book 5??? 5 Diricawl

[edit] Purpose of This Article

As a clarification this page has been created to look at the creatures that J.K. Rowling has created specifically for the Harry Potter Series and spin offs. Winged Horses and Dragons have been included here to address the specific Breeds created for the series. All others creatures that have been taken from actual folklore and mythology should be dealt with on there respective pages, e.g. fairies, kelpies, manticores etc..., and mentioned in the Magical Beasts (Harry Potter) main list.Kevmin 20:14, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Basilisk

"Anyone who looks in the eyes of a Basilisk will die and Rowling may have borrowed this idea from the serpent-haired demi-god Medusa from Greek legend."

Or maybe she, you know, took it from the myth of the Basilisk? Just a vague thought.

I'm removing that. --Switch 06:58, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

I removed the Basilisk, griffin, and sphinx sections from the Beast list. Most of the creatures on this list were invented by JK Rowling, and I think that those should be its focus. As is with most of the "real" mythical beasts Rowling uses, it's best to keep any Harry Potter info on them to their own pages. "Dragon" can remain since, although she didn't invent dragons, she did invent the breeds. Grindylow remains for now since at the moment the legendary bogey doesn't actually have a page of its own and this is the only place where a querent can get any information at all about it. Serendipodous 12:16, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

"The firecrab is also mentioned in Stephen King's "The dark tower" series as the creatures that attacked Rowland and amputated his trigger finger (among others)." Removing. That is a completely different creature. 24.15.167.167

[edit] Norwegian Ridgeback

There are several things that need to be looked at with this section. 1. The comment about " which is unusual for dragons (probably because fire and water don't mix)" is not appears to be POV. Has this actually been stated anywhere? 2. "The name is thought to be based on a Rhodesian Ridgeback, a type of purebred dog" is there a supporting reference for this sentence. It should be rewritten to reflect Who thinks this 3. "and Hagrid boiled it in water to hatch it". I cannot remember if this is true in the movie but it is not true for the book in which the egg was in the center of the fire under the cauldrons.Kevmin 02:03, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Possible Lethifold Appearance in Book 5???

In book 5 it is mentioned that while Ron was cleaning a closet in the Black Family Mansion a robe wrapped itself around his neck and Mundungus managed to fight it off. Does anyone else this was a lethifold? -- AS Artimour 00:27, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Diricawl

This is not a creature that was Created by J.K. Rowling. As is stated in FBAWFT it is the wizarding name for the Dodo. As per the purpose of this article it doesn't belong here . In fact the Diricawl already has a section where it rightly should, in the Dodos in popular culture article.-- Kevmin 17:01, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Dodos don't magically disappear or appear. The Diricawl is nothing like the Dodo, aside from the mock-historical identification of the two by Rowling. This article is the place for the creature, not a serious article on a genuine creature. Michael Sanders 17:08, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

"Interestingly Muggles were fully aware fully of the existence of the Diricawl though they knew it by the name of 'Dodo'"-Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, page 9.

This articles scope is creatures that were created by JKR. While she has given the dodo some extra abilities it should be , and is, more correctly discussed in the Dodos in popular culture article.-- Kevmin 19:37, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

No. JK Rowling invented the Diricawl. And then said that it was equivalent to the Dodo. That is not the same as a phoenix, which is simply a borrowing from popular mythology. Michael Sanders 19:55, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

The passage in FBAWTF states uniquivicobly that diricawl=dodo thus taking it out of the scope of this article--Kevmin 19:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

"These beasts are those that have been specifically invented by JK Rowling; many other beasts in Harry Potter are also common in folklore and myth[1]." "As a clarification this page has been created to look at the creatures that J.K. Rowling has created specifically for the Harry Potter Series and spin offs. Winged Horses and Dragons have been included here to address the specific Breeds created for the series. All others creatures that have been taken from actual folklore and mythology should be dealt with on there respective pages, e.g. fairies, kelpies, manticores etc..., and mentioned in the Magical Beasts (Harry Potter) main list" - there is nothing in there about excluding creatures invented by Rowling and then identified by her with a 'genuine' creature. On the contrary, the fact that 'breeds' of dragons are included because those breeds have been specifically invented by Rowling indicates a precedent for other specific Rowling creations (which the Diricawl is. No dodo has ever been referred to as a 'Diricawl' by anyone other than Rowling. Michael Sanders 20:05, 16 March 2007 (UTC)