Talk:Minor Dark wizards in Harry Potter

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[edit] Individual pages discussion

Please participate in the discussion at Talk:Harry_Potter#Breaking_apart_articles_of_characters regarding having individual pages for characters rather than group pages. --billlund 21:20, July 17, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Regulus Black

Some articles seem to take it as canon that R.A.B. is Regulus Black. But has JKR actually confirmed it? Knowing her, it may not be. Sonic Mew | talk to me 18:48, July 18, 2005 (UTC)

I agree, and I believe R.A.B. not to him. Although it seems rather important to put it here where it is. Attention is needed, though, as you say, because this cannot be taken as granted. --Jotomicron | talk 01:40, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
I've just added that JK more or less confirmed Regulus Black being R.A.B. - see Mugglenet's Interview with her: [1] --FermatSim 17:45, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Well, strictly she confirmed that it was a good guess, that there was indeed reason to think it could be him. Her words might be interpreted to mean that we are supposed to guess it was him, even though it later turns out not to be.Sandpiper 01:18, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fenrir Greyback

I think the Death Eater loyalty is not really correct. He is not (I believe, and it is not stated anywhere) a Death Eater. Writing Lord Voldemort instead would be better. --Jotomicron | talk 01:42, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Where is it established in Harry Potter canon that werewolves can be born rather than having to be turned into werewolves after birth? This may be an element of other stories involving werewolves, but I don't recall it appearing in this particular variation of werewolf lore. --Icarus 18:10, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Ironic that Dumbledore's middle name, Wulfric, means Wolf Ruler, don't you think :) Red Ed 13:28, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

btw Fenir Greyback isnt exactly a wizard, is he? So shouldn't he NOT be in this article? maybe change the title of the article to "Minor sevants of Lord Voldemort (Harry Potter)" or something O.O The pointer outer 20:31, 2 April 2006 (UTC)


Should it really be in the article that Greyback is like Mussolini. That seems a little absurd to me. Should we also compare him to Saddam Hussein? Stalin? Mao? It's easy to come up with 'evil' stereotypes from history, but addition in an encyclopedia seems pointless. ABart26 20:37, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grindelwald

What evidence is there that creating a Horcrux isn't always evil? Slughorn says in Book 6 that the soul is meant to remain whole, and that splitting it is against nature, which would, if anything, imply the contrary. It is one thing to suggest that killing 'by accident' or 'to save other people' is not evil, but another to say that creating a horcrux isn't evil either. As we know, there is a specific spell that must be cast to encase the fragment of soul in an object - it doesn't just jump out when you kill someone. If there's no objection, I think this latest edit should be removed.--Libatius 11:46, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

There is no proof, but there has relatively recently been an essay on dumbledoreisnotdead.com saying that Fawkes is Dumbledore's horcrux- and most of the support is actually sound. You can read it for yourself to understand where that last editor was coming from, but in truth that last edit should be deleted... Emily (Funtrivia Freak) 00:54, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Can we get a reference on Rowling saying that Grindelwald is dead? --user:Rdbrady April 12 2006

And is there any evidence that Dumbledore killed him? Rdbrady's question is spot on. Thanks for the dumbledoreisnotdead.com essay Emily. I honestly find all the 'Dumbledore isn't really dead' chat as interesting as the next person, but I still stand by my initial comments. (I know you agreed that the edit should be removed - this is just to clarify for anyone else). I know this isn't the place to discuss what may or may not have happened to Dumbledore - there are more than enough people discussing the issue on mugglenet.com - but the article is, in my humble opinion, a long way out there. In any case, there is just as much evidence to the contrary. Put simply, this page runs the risk of becoming a playground for anyone who has a Harry Potter theory if we allow this sort of edit, and the fact that it is 'new' doesn't make it any more valid. --Libatius 16:59, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
JKR confirmed that Grindelwald was dead in an interview with Mugglenet, but she didn't say that Dumbledore killed him (i believe Voldemort killed Grindelwald to create a horcrux)

[edit] The Prewetts

When is it ever stated that the Prewetts were Molly Weasley's brothers?

Yes, JKR has said it herself.--Jnelson09 16:26, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Avery

Avery was actually punished for giving Voldemort misinformation 'bout the department of mysteries. Is there any proof that Avery was the baby headed death eater?


[edit] 10 escaped death eatrs

who were the other 4 escaped death eaters? I only have 6.

[edit] Avery in the film Goblet Of Fire

I added Richard Rosson as playing Avery in the film a few weeks ago, but subsequently discovered that his part had been dropped from the film's cinematic edit. However, I have had word from Richard that he may be on the DVD issue of the film, but we are not aware if it will be as a bonus feature or part of the DVD edit of the feature. All I do know for sure is that he shot footage of Avery being tortured, and that he had one line of dialogue that went something like "yes master..." or "please forgive me master..." which he felt would probably be dubbed over. Richard is a contortionist so you can bet that his torture scenes would have been really good! McGonicle 23:07, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Carrows being merged here

It seems like a good idea to me. Emily 03:16, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

  • Support. Fbv65edel (discuss | contribs) 22:25, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
  • I support this as well. There are much bigger characters (Fenrir Greyback, Dolohov, probably Regulus Back) on here than the really minor Carrows. If they aren't Amycus and Alecto than they so far had just one mention in Canon. Neville Longbottom 20:32, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Yes, merge, there's nothing there. Sandpiper 23:52, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Agree merge away. Death Eater Dan (Muahaha) 00:12, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Does this mean someone's gonna merge it? Emily (Funtrivia Freak) 01:23, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

ah, now youre asking... Will have a look if I get time, but anyone gets there first, feel free Sandpiper 08:01, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
I went ahead and merged the articles.Bibliophile 13:27, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Antonin Dolohov

Is there a reason why this minor dark wizard had his section deleted? Emily (Funtrivia Freak) 04:16, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

  • I've added him again, but not everything from the old article, since I found it too long. Don't know why it was deleted, though. Neville Longbottom 20:32, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

The statement "Antonin is a French name" mayh be true, but Antonin Dvorak (forgive the lack of diacritics) was one of the most prominent Czech composers.

The suggestion that Antonin is a typical French name is nonsense as far as I know. It is mentioned as a French form of Antoninus on www.behindthename.com, but it's also listed as a Czech name. The statement that it's an Italian name doesn't seem to be supported. Rowling clearly meant Dolohov to hail from the Balkans (Bulgaria seems like a good guess, he might well be an acquaintance of Igor Karkaroff) and so it's reasonable to say that the name Antonin, in this case, is Czech. --84.26.109.69 12:19, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tagged for cleanup

I've tagged this article for cleanup with multiple tags explaining the various problems this article has. Some relevant guidelines to look at might be WP:V ,WP:RS, and WP:FICT. Moreschi Request a recording? 20:12, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProjects Dogs

Why is this tagged as WikiProjects Dogs?

That Fenrir dude is a werewolf. Wolves are canines, so that's why--양복42 00:27, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] rodolphus and rabastan movie picture

can we get a good picture of the lestrange brothers form the movie? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.162.163.46 (talk) 19:15, 31 March 2007 (UTC).

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