Talk:Minka Kelly
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[edit] Reverted information
Information about Ms. Kelly's uncle and grandmother would not be considered notable. Unless they themselves are famous in some way, the information really does not need to be added. Ckessler 18:58, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Encyclopedia's are about information. Notable people in this world have ordinary people in their worlds that influence them, which deserve mention. Stop removing my contributions. Your time would be better spent finding and removing graffiti.... millhollin —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.227.205.253 (talk) 10:41, 25 February 2007 (UTC).
Yes, encylopedias are about information, but this one has guidelines about notability. Wikipedia is not self promotion. Ckessler 19:31, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Self Promotion, something you, Ckessler, should know a lot about... Mentioning Minka's Grandmother and Uncle are contributions to her character. One does not become notable without the less notable people in their lives. Speaking of being notable, what makes a person notable? Minka hasn't invented anything that would benefit the world. She hasn't won a Pulitzer Prize. She hasn't gripped the attention of the world with her talents and good looks. All she has done is appear in a couple of Movies and Television episodes, uttering a few not-so-memorable lines. What's next, her very own sidewalk star? You get my drift? No one is asking for a complete page dedicated to her Grandmother, only a simple mention as someone who may or may not have influenced Minka in her endeavors. God knows her mother wasn't much of an influence.... User:millhollin
That makes no sense; I am not promoting myself in any way, I'm merely following the guidelines to create appropriate articles. As for your second point, that's a nice thing to say about your niece. Even if she hasn't been in many films yet, she has done enough work to merit an article here. A photographer out of Iowa, who is not known past his hometown is not considered notable.
Aside from that, I request that you: login to your account to make edits, sign posts with ~~~~, and refrain from posting personal attacks on any page, as they violate WP guidelines. WP:NPA Ckessler 22:48, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
This is a Discussion page.... If you consider my remarks as a personal attack, then so be it. "Ckessler is the greatest Wikipedia editor in the state of Arizona" is self promotion in my book.... As for the guidelines, appropriate articles should include background. A real Encyclopedia has background, not just one-liners. Dictionaries have one-liners. And as for your comment concerning my notability outside of Iowa, you have made my point. Being a notable person is relative. You may not know me, but someone does. You may know Minka, but my neighbor doesn't....
If you read the words in parentheses after that statement, you might know that I was being sarcastic. If not: I was being sarcastic. If calling me an idiot isn't an attack, then I hope you don't talk to people in the real world that way.
I'm not going to argue with you about the relative nature of notability, because Wikipedia has hard and fast rules about what is considered notable. Ckessler 01:46, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
When you removed my reference to Minka's Grandmother and Uncle (2 un-noteworthy people), but yet left the reference to her mother, the one time non-notable Las Vegas Showgirl, that warranted an idiot label. You can't apply the rules indiscriminately. Besides, your rules aren't that hard and fast, as you've allowed Tim Noah to remain.......... Millhollin 10:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Actually, if you read WP:NPA, there are no circumstances under which it's appropriate to call me, or any one else here an idiot. I'm not applying the rules indiscriminately. Yes, a brief paragraph about someone's immediate family might be acceptable (I'm not the one making the rules), but details about their entire extended family probably isn't. Leave the sentence about her grandmother in, but leave the sentence about you out. Happy? Probably not. Stop attacking me and pushing the issue, otherwise I'd be happy to get an admin involved. Ckessler 00:31, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
