Talk:Ministry of Defence Police

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They are sometimes colloquially called "the Modplod"~(well I always found it amusing).130.237.175.198 08:34, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

This is a term to use carefully. Whilst it can be used in an amusing/friendly way it is more often used as an insult/put-down. cjp116

[edit] Map

The map is not a true reflection of the MDP police responsibility. Although they police establishements across the UK the map implies they will be found across the country and are responsible for it. Something along the lines of the map displayed for Civil Nuclear Constabulary would be more appropriate and accurate. Anybody know how to do this? Dibble999 10:43, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Surely there are far too many MOD installations to represent like so? Morwen - Talk 12:13, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Not sure how many establishments there are, but my point is that the current map implies, incorrectly, that the MOD police area is the entire UK which it is not. Their normal jurisdiction is limited to MOD establishements unless certain conditions are met and they are not responsible for policing the entire nation as the map implies. How this can be remedied, I'm not sure, perhaps a map with the HQ and major millitary/MOD bases shown? Dibble999 17:12, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

If you look at this article, you'll see that the MOD Police has stations all over the country, and therefore is a truly national police force. A map showing the locations of even the major MOD installations (and it wouldn't just be military bases) would involve a map of the UK covered in little red dots. In any case, you couldn't do that, because it would seem that that is the limit of the MOD Police's jurisdiction. It is easier with the CNC because there aren't that many installations it polices. If you want to try and put all the named MOD stations on a UK map, by all means, but unless or until you do, I am restoring the blue UK map. Hammersfan 11/09/06, 15.25 BST

I understand that MOD police has installations all over the country but they are not responsible for the whole country nor have full jurisdiction throughout the UK in normal circumstances. The map is implying that they have full jurisdiction (which they don't), or that they are responsible for policing the entire UK (which they aren't). In reality the MOD police is, normally, a specialist security police for the ministry of defence, which most police officers in Home Office forces never come across. The current map is not a reflection of this. Someone who doesn't have knowledge of the police will look at the current map and get the wrong end of the stick. You also state that a map with dots would imply that that is the limit of the MOD officers jurisdiction. Well, under normal circumstances MOD officers do not have full jurisdiction through the UK, only in certain circumstances. If we were to use your argument for the map being as it is due to jurisdictions (which is wrong) then all the England and Wales forces maps should show the whole of England and Wales as constables of these forces have true jurisdiction throughout England and Wales and are not limited to the police area for which they work as is currently shown. In short if the police force maps show jurisdiction then they all need altering, or which is probably the case, they are there to show the area that the force is responsible for then the current blue MOD map is incorrect and needs changing, as the MOD police are not responsible for the whole UK just MOD installations. I won't remove the map at the moment so we can get to some agreement but something needs to be altered. Regards Dibble999 20:11, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

The MoD Police and the British Transport Police (BTP) (and the Civil Nuclear Police, as mentioned by Dibble999 above) are similar in their powers and their restricted "patches". Having just looked at the BTP page, their map is "coloured in" using a map of the national rail network. This does not solve the problem of what to do in the case of MoD Plod but it might provide a "seed" for some lateral thinking. I agree the Civil Nucelar Police map is the "proper way" to show the MOD Police, but I also agree that it may not be a practical to show it on the UK map.Pyrotec 15:33, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I've been away for a bit but see that the blue map is still being used which is highly inaccurate and misleading in relation to the MOD police. I do not wish to arbitarily remove it and am open to suggestions but it needs to be rectified. It doesn't reflect the area this force is responsible for (as the maps do for each of the other forces) and also it incorrectly implies they have full jurisdiction throughout the nation outside of MOD land (which they don't). As already stated this force is a highly specialised police service which has very little to do with normal day to day policing. If a map would be too cluttered with all the MOD establishments, I would suggest removing the map and replacing it with a sentence explain 'Responsible for MOD land and premises throughout the UK'. Dibble999 19:11, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Even the force itself doesn't produce a map of it's stations - the only thing that I can find is a map showing the areas the divisions cover but this is not much better than the blue map in terms of misleading people.cjp116

[edit] Pitcairn Islands

A recent C4 documentry showed MOD police on the Pitcairn Islands. They have two officers who also run the island's prison. This needs including somewhere, I'll find a bit more info first Guydrury 22:17, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

The MOD Police detachment on the Pitcairn Islands finished quite recently. It was part of the international policing responsibilities referred to in the article cjp116

[edit] Layout altering

I intend to split the article from here: 'It once had a presence at 120 Ministry of Defence sites,' under the heading 'Areas of policing'. Better header names anyone :p ?

I'm a serving MOD Police officer - I think that the whole article could do with a bit of a rewrite as the roles and responsibilities of the job have changed quite a lot since the introduction of agency status. Areas of policing is not as clear cut as it seems in this article. In terms of layout something closer to the British Transport Police might be a good idea (although there are flaws in that article). I might have a go a rewrite next week when I've got time - thoughts? cjp116