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Military manpower: those figures are not based on anything at all and have no date on which the numbers are established. That's why I deleted them.S710 08:32, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

I provided a new calculation of expenditures based on more recent CIA factbook entries. However, I caveat it as a gross estimation, and put in some examples of illegal arms sales. --Petercorless 10:09, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

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Contents 1 Ogaden War Factcheck Needed 2 Clean-Up 3 Expunged entry on ICU-ARPCT-TFG conflict 4 Xirsi is Xersi 5 Somali army before the civil war 6 Child soldiers

[edit] Ogaden War Factcheck Needed

I saw that the numbers of troops and percentage of territory overrun listed in this section of the Ogaden War contradict the numbers listed on the Ogaden War page itself. --Petercorless 07:46, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clean-Up

I took out periods from acronyms.

Ex:

• I.C.U --> ICU
• A.R.P.C.T. --> ARPCT
• U.S. --> US

Also made citations to the main articles on the ongoing Civil War as well as the Second Battle of Mogadishu

--Petercorless 07:55, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Expunged entry on ICU-ARPCT-TFG conflict

There is more information available under the Somali Civil War articles, and I did not want to see a maintenance of multiple sources. Also, the entry suffered from POV arguments and was obsolete at this time (post Battle of Baidoa). --Petercorless 10:09, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Xirsi is Xersi

I assume that militia leader Maxamed Saaiid Xersi was the same as militia leader Saiid Maxamed Xirsi. If the latter was a different person it would be an extraordinary coincidence that two people with the same background and almost the identical name exist. Especially because one of the two was never heard of before today. But truth is stranger than fiction.S710 18:38, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

That's an interesting point. At first, I too thought mention of "Said Mohamed Hirsi" was also General "Morgan" (Mohammed Said Hersi Morgan). I even had it linked at first. Then I removed the link. There are many people with similar names in the country. For instance, "Hussein Mohamed Farrah Aidid" is not the same as "Mohamed Farrah Aidid." One was the father, the other his son. If you can provide a definitive reference to whether this truly is General "Morgan," or simply someone with a similar name, that would be critical. Otherwise, I'd prefer not to make the assumption General "Morgan" is now returned and fighting with the TFG. Let's get verification before we leap to a conclusion. --Petercorless 19:13, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Just as a followup, here's an example of a "false positive" for "Mohammed Hersi" in the news. This was a man whose relative was eaten by hyenas: Somalia: Hyenas Eat Two Women in Central Somalia Again, these names and variations on them are very common in Somalia. --Petercorless 19:19, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree. The names Said, Mohammed and Hirsi are very common. But the only difference here is the order of his two first names. The name Hirsi in stead of Hersi is very commonly used for this warlord. Morgan is only his nickname and is left out quite often. S710 00:08, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

• You're completely right. It is indeed another person. It is Col. Said "Dhere" Mohamed Hersi, a government military commander and not gen. Morgan at all. [1]

S710 11:05, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Somali army before the civil war

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXIZDCmH2Mw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-6VprKVp8k —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.80.207.4 (talk) 09:50, 25 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Child soldiers

I believe it is important to list the issue of child soldiers, though I agree that it is not the TFG policy. I placed it under the militia entry instead, as both the ICU and other warlords recruited child soldiers. --Petercorless 15:52, 29 January 2007 (UTC)