Talk:Military history of Albania during World War II
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I do not understand what this means in the article: "While Albanian writers never tired of pointing out that the communists liberated Albania without a single Soviet soldier setting foot on its territory, they often neglected to mention that the communist forces in Albania were organized by the Yugoslavs and armed by the West or that the Axis retreat from Albania was in response to military defeats outside the country". 1.Did the writer expect Albanians to fight the Italians and Germans until Rome or Berlin? 2.As I learned the history the communists in Albania were not organized by Yugoslavs (if so how can it be explained that the relationships were broken 3 years after the war?).Nervi modest 20:13, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
"Forced to flee Albania, Kelmendi fought in the Garibaldi International Brigade during the Spanish Civil War and later moved to France, where together with other communists, including a student named Enver Hoxha, he published a newspaper."
According to the article about Enver Hoxha, Hoxha was a student in France in 1930 and soon he dropped out. From 1936 to 1939 Hoxha was a teacher on Albania. Something seems to be wrong. Andres 16:34, 18 Aug 2003 (UTC)
- According to this article http://www.mltranslations.org/Albania/EnverNL.htm Hoxha did not meet Kelmendi until 1936. Maybe the newspaper stuff happened later (if it ever did). Dori 17:16, 18 Aug 2003 (UTC)
- Additionally, according to this article http://www.kosovo.com/sk/history/kosovo_saga/saga12.html "Ali Kelmendi and his few collaborators were forced to leave Albania in 1936. He took part in the Spanish Civil War and in 1939 died in France."
According to the biography you are citing Enver Hoxha could be called a student from 1930 to 1936 and he met Kelmendi in 1936, leaving France in the same year. So they could cooperate only in 1936. Kelmendi had another, short period in France after his participation in the Spanish civil war and before his death on February 11, 1939. Hoxha seems not to have been to France at his time. Probably the author of the report (and thus our article) confounds Kelmendi's two periods in France. Andres 18:15, 18 Aug 2003 (UTC)
I am planning to move the paragraph about the early Communist movement to the article about Albania between the wars and delete the information about Hoxha's and Shehu's earlier years and add to their biographies what still isn't there. Andres 07:35, 25 Aug 2003 (UTC)
[edit] Balli Kombetar
According to the article, the the name 'Balli Kombetar' translates into National Union. Now, I have a very limited understanding of Albanian, but I do believe that 'Balli' means something like either the head or forehead, but Kombetar (Komtar, in the dialect that I'm familiar with) does mean soemthing like nation. So, if my knowledge of Albanian is correct, Balli Kombetar means something like 'Head of the Nation', not 'National Union'.
I guess, though, that the meanings of various words could be different in the different dialects of Albanian, so that could cause some confusion. --Stamford 00:20, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
