Talk:Military budget of the People's Republic of China

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[edit] Creation of this page

This page has been created because:

  1. This topic was on three different pages: Sino-American relations, People's Republic of China and People's Liberation Army
  2. The size of this topic is becoming too large.

The information is substracted and combined from these three pages. Mjolnir1984 16:37, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Also Sino-Japanese relations. Mjolnir1984 12:29, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Chinese Economic Census

The Chinese government recently conducted an economic census which determined that the previous GDP figures were underestimating the size of the economy by 17%, mostly because of undereporting in the service sector. I reduced the spending/GDP ratios to reflect the newer estimate for the size of the GDP.--Todd Kloos 10:38, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] POV

The adding of the US and Japan parts are POV in my opinion. (1) Japan Telling Japan is "hypocritical" is an opinion. Japan's expenditures are at least partially inspired by the growing Chinese expenditures, there is a consensus about this in most academic articles. Also: What's the relevance of a highly controversial statement that Japan broke its own laws (constitution). Clearly, It is only relevant when a Chinese spokesman or politician would accuse Japan of of doing so - in the context of this spending controversy. If China did, no problem, but source the specific statements, as it seems POV now. (2) US Emphasizing that same can be said for US = opinion, who are you to judge? It seems that the US feels threatened (terrorism, rogue states & WMD (Iran, North Korea), and China's rising expenditures). See for instance the rapid increase in American military spending which occurred after 9/11 (expenditures substantially declined during the 90's), so the increase seems at least partially threat inspired. If it's said by Chinese spokesmen and politicans, source it and no problem. Sijo Ripa 23:49, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, such points are highly POV and shouldn't be included unless made by a Chinese spokesman. Japan has actually been cutting its budget (I think successively for the last four years), not increasing it. John Smith's 14:00, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Where does it talking about Japan like this? BlizzardGhost 03:49, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

It's been removed. John Smith's 16:50, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unprotecting

No discussion in weeks. I'm unprotecting this, it's time to edit. --Tony Sidaway 18:05, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Figures

This page really needs updating - the figures for China are a year (two?) out of date. For example, SIPRI should read $41 billion. Can anyone bring this up to speed? John Smith's 14:24, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Some words to say

China is nowadays the 2 or 3 largest economic entities,comparing to it GDP,the millitary budget is relative small to the expenditure of USA.Why the Americans are so keen on the expenditures of China?Maybe only one possible explanation,the USA want to find one enemy (no matter whether this enemy really want to war with the USA) to rationalize its too too big military budget.--Ksyrie 21:57, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Some comparisons of Chinese military force with their Japan/US counterparts

China has spending much much less money on millitary during 1980-2000. The following information is from wikipedia.

Destroyers commissioned into the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force since 1991:

  • JDS Kongō class destroyers (4 in service)
  • Murasame class destroyers (9 in service)
  • Takanami class destroyers (5 in service)

Destroyers commissioned into the United States Navy since 1991:

  • Arleigh Burke class destroyer 50+

Destroyers commissioned into the People's Liberation Army Navy since 1991:

By 1999:

  • Type 052 Luhu class — 2 ships
  • Type 051B Luhai class — 1 ship

Since 1999:

  • Type 052B Guangzhou class (NATO Name: Luyang I Class DDG) — 2 ships
  • Type 052C Lanzhou class (NATO Name: Luyang II Class DDG) — 2 ships
  • Type 051C Luzhou class (NATO: Luzhou Class DDG) — 2 ships (on sea trials)
  • Project 956 Sovremenny class (NATO: Sovremenny I Class DDG) — 2 ships
  • Project 956EM Sovremenny class (NATO: Sovremenny II Class DDG) — 2 ships

Another conparison is that China's first 4th generation jet fighter J-10 entered into service in 2004, while in 2007 twelve F-22 Raptors - the 5th generation fighter - have been deployed by US air force in Kadena Air Base - only several hundred miles from Shanghai.

It's very clear to me who is threating whom.Sinolonghai 15:39, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

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