Talk:Miles M.52

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It's hardly fair to remove the "anti-labour" bias. I'm a canuck who could care less for UK politics. More to the point, it is absolutely the case that the labour govornments of the immediate post-war and then late 1950's are responsible for the cancellation of the vast majority of the UK's aerospace projects. Most notable is Duncan Sandys 1957 decision to cancel _all_ manned aircraft, sparing only the TSR.2 (for a few years).

Eh? In 1957 the Tories were in power. Also how accurate would it be to suggest that both TSR-2 and Avro Arrow were cancelled due to US bullying of the respective governments? - User:gcarty

[edit] Sources and missing data

I'd like to remove the template at the bottom of the page, for having zero data. Additionally, some of the points mentioned in the article ("the US reneged on the agreement...", "obtained a speed of Mach 1.5...") have no sources attributed. I would like to change the "obtained speed" to "observed speed" as this was unmanned flight, and the aircraft was not recovered. The former I would like to eliminate, stating only that data was not provided by the Americans, as nothing shows a "reneg"ing of the agreement. Avriette 20:23, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

I suggest you do a little research into the subject using non US sources - there is little doubt that Renege is the correct term to use. That there was a technology sharing agreement, and that after recieving British research the US government declined to share are matters of record... Sounds like reneging on a deal to me. 84.92.80.169 17:17, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Subsequent work

"..instead of diving into the sea as planned, the model ignored radio commands and was last observed (on radar) heading out into the Atlantic." Surely this implies that the rocket took a conscious decision to 'ignore' radio commands? A better wording might be "...the model failed to respond to radio commands.."

I don't have a solid source on this, but my understanding from previous documentaries is slightly different - that it was commanded to perform a very sharp turn that was intended to cause it to break up. However, the airframe unexpectedly survived the turn and was last seen heading out to sea. Eftpotrm 11:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Faster than Sound documentary

Here is a quote from the televsion documentary. It may be controversial, it still represents a valid reference source. STACY KEACH (NARRATOR): For 50 years, the cancellation of the M-52 has been the subject of argument and secrecy. Ben Lockspieser was the civil servant who abandoned the project. He said it was too dangerous. The reasons why he came to this decision are only now becoming clear. At the end of the war, Lockspieser accompanied a number of British and American scientists who visited a secret aircraft research laboratory near Munich in Germany. All that remains today is the blocked-up entrance. But some of Germany's most talented aircraft designers once worked here—on designs that convinced Lockspieser the M-52 would never break the sound barrier. Bzuk 03:45 7 February 2007 (UTC).