Talk:Mike Mentzer
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Why should be article be written so that persons who know nothing about weightlifting or muscle subculture should be able to verify everything in short order? I propose that the article be edited by a Mentzer expert, or left as is content-wise. Much of the article is Common knowledge for fans of Mentzer, at leat. Jeff Vincent, Fort Wayne, IN USA
1. the article discusses Mentzer's ideas, and does not take a position on their absolute value. 2. All of what I wrote has been previously published, but some of it was locked in my memory.I don't save muscle mags like IRONMAN. Maybe someone else can track down the article. 3. The buisness about Olympic lifting has been gone over so much that you can take your pick of 100,000 citations. 4. MM's HEAVY DUTY JOURNAL will be re-published by the estate, at some point in the future. The work details rest-pause and other issues. 5. I have done original research,but this article reflects only knowledge in public domain. fbjm1979@yahoo.com
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Maybe someone like John Little can come along and improve the article. I am a college prof. who lifts weights; I have all of this knowledge of Mentzer stuck in my head,going back to 1978. I was hoping to provide some info. on a neutral forum, as Mentzer's ideas are often censored out of mainstream lifting/bb blogs. If the AynRand/Mentzer link is enough to get a good Mentzer article here, so be it. I simply don't have time to fool with it anymore or track down sources; cut it up as you will. I am sure there are muscle writers out there who can document everything in the piece. The 12 week lag is in Sisco's book; the controversy over olifts is so vast that a huge number of pro and con arguments can be cited. fbjm1979@yahoo.com
Maybe "Mentzer CLAIMED to have the only valid theory of bb" would address the discussion post below. fbjm1979@yahoo.com
