User talk:Mijotoba

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2 RE: Edinburgh to Edimburgo
3 Re:Santa Marta
4 WP Former countries
5 Veraguas
6 Flag of Santander
7 Municipalities
8 Category
9 Moving pages
10 Inírida

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[edit] RE: Edinburgh to Edimburgo

Hiya. I've uploaded the coat of arms to Commons for you. :-) Craigy (talk) 15:28, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Santa Marta

Para lo de las fotos necesitas volverlas a subir - The pics, you'll have to upload them in the spanish wiki. Copy - paste - save - upload.F3rn4nd0 05:26, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP Former countries

Welcome to WP Former countries, and thanks for your work in implementing the former country infobox. If you have any suggestions for how to improve the presentation of entries on former states (in general, that is - not just the infobox), then we would be happy to hear them.

One request: for any former country articles that you work on, please place the {{WPFC}} banner at the top of the article's talk page. That is the best way for us to keep track of all entries. Thanks. - 52 Pickup 18:06, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Veraguas

Hi mijotoba. Thanks for the quick response. This gets more and more complicated. Here's what I had been working from (one of several sources):

El Virreinato fue una institución netamente española. El de la Nueva España fue fundado el 17 de abril de 1535. Su capital fue la Ciudad de México y sumó las entidades siguientes: Audiencia de Santo Domingo, con las gobernaciones de la isla Española, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Florida y Venezuela. La Audiencia de México, que comprendia la gobernación de Yucatán. La Audiencia de los Confines, que abarcaba las gobernaciones de Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica y Soconusco. La Audiencia de Guadalajara con las gobernaciones de la Nueva Galicia, Nueva Vizcaya, el Nuevo Reino de León, Nuevo México y Coahuila. La Audiencia de Manila, que abarcaba la gobernación de las islas Filipinas. Esta organización se mantuvo casi en su integridad hasta la consumación de la independencia. (Fernando Orozco Linares, Gobernantes de México, Mexico City: Panorama Editorial, 1993.)

My sources are almost all Mexican, so I don't have a New Granada perspective here. Notice that it claims Venezuela as being part of New Spain. I haven't been able to find any dates or other details for this, but I assume it was early in the colonial period or else brief. I also assume it refers just to the coast or a few coast settlements. Now your sources say that Costa Rica was part of New Granada.

I've looked in a few more places, and found that Veraguas "moved around". Although it originally referred to Costa Rica (and perhaps northern Panama), apparently after 1540 it was in Panama. (That is the year la Provincia de Nuevo Cartago y Costa Rica was erected.) Here is an account from the Spanish Wikipedia: Veragua. Also, Castilla de Oro gives a little more information.

Let me know what you think. And thanks for your dedicated work on the Colombian articles.

--Rbraunwa 04:20, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

That looks good to me. Thanks. --Rbraunwa 22:19, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flag of Santander

Hello,

I just noticed you replaced this flag of Santander with one which has eight stars, claiming it's a new flag. However, neither the Governorship site nor FOTW seem to have any trace of the new flag, and instead agree with the old one. Care to explain?

Thanks in advance, --Fibonacci 06:56, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Of course i would be happy to explain, The Flag of Santander was officially changed on September 1, 2006, by means of the Decree 254 of 2006 which states in Article 1 that "Modificar el artículo segundo del decreto 579 de 1972, en lo pertinente a las estrellas, el cual quedará así: LAS ESTRELLAS de plata son representación de los ocho (8) Núcleos de Desarrollo Provincial del Departamento de Santander."

This information IS in the Governorship site you just have to look a lil closer, at the bottom of this page in the section that says "Archivos a Descargar" you can find the link to download this Decree "Decreto254_2006_Bandera" and you will see for yourself, and even though some images in the same overnorship page still have the 6 stas, there are also some others that now show the 8 stars, and actually, i just noticed that the Coat of arms of the Department of Santander has also changed, before it had six argent stars in a border field of gules on the upper part of the shield, but now it has eight, however, there is no Decree or explanation to support this fact, all i know is that the governorship now shows a shield with 8, which makes sense since if they changed the flag for the same reasons why not the COA. Should the coat of arms be changed?

As for FOTW, i cannot speak for them, nor i think the Department of Santander was thinking of contancting the site to change its symbols, and the site is not always 100% accurate.

Hope to have cleared any doubts. mijotoba 15:34, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer. I had overlooked the link you mentioned on the Governorship site. As for FOTW, I'll see if I can contact them about the new flag. --Fibonacci 10:39, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Municipalities

--((F3rn4nd0 ))^{(BLA BLA BLA)} 05:18, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category

{{commonscat|Departamento del Magdalena}} ... --((F3rn4nd0 ))^{(BLA BLA BLA)} 15:48, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Moving pages

Thank you for correcting the naming of Inírida to reflect the new official name. However, before you move another page please read Wikipedia:How to rename (move) a page. If a page does not move, then request an administrator to move it for you. Do not copy and paste as this does not move the page's history. --Bejnar 15:45, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Inírida

There was a reason that Inírida pointed to a disambiguation page. The Puerto Inírida article clearly states in the first few words that Inírida is the official name. Inirida without the acute accent on the second i redirects to Inírida. If this were not the set-up then the article about Inírida (with an accent) would have to be located at Inírida (town), in order to avoid conflicts. Having the text of the article about the town on the Inirida, with no accent, is less proper than having it at Puerto Inírida, and a lot less user friendly. Now, the first line of the article about the town could be changed to read Inírida, formerly Puerto Inírida is the capital city,.... --Bejnar 16:06, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Another example, the former capital of Myanmar was Yangon it used to and is still widely known as Rangoon, nevertheless the article is located in the page of the now official name, Yangoon, not Rangoon, even though it would be more user friendly, or if not, take the country itself, The US, Australia Britain know it as Burma and the EU accepts both, but because the country calls itself Myanmar, the article is in Myanmar, now the goverment of the city in question, calls it Inirida, and the article should be in Inirida. mijotoba 04:25, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

At your request to not have Inírida under the old name of Puerto Inírida, I have placed the article about the town and municipality under Inírida (town and municipality) with appropriate hatnote, since a number of pages redirect there. --Bejnar 16:32, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Again you are missing the point, the article should be just moved to Inirida after all there is no other article that has that name and the "(town and municipality)" is just too much, and IT DOES NOT HAVE AN ACCENT ANYMORE, so regardless the new name is wrong, im not trying to be difficult but why create another article about a page that aleady exists, and Inirida is not a just a town, is a city, and in Colombia, Municipalities are cities in itself, theres no need to have both, and calling it town underminds its importance as a capital, after all you dont know if there is a town somewhere else called Inirida, maybe in Peru or Brazil. mijotoba 18:30, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Accent is removed. With a population of 10,891 (census 2005), Inirida is hardly a city. Take a look at the image taken in the year 2000 The municipality is quite large, 72.238 km², and includes much more than the town. I added the official web page of the municipality to the external links. The Inírida River may well be more important that the town. Did they remove the accent from the river as well? --Bejnar 18:56, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi Mijo, did you read my opinion?

I support renaming it to Inírida with the accent, if you take the accent away it will sound awkward and as far as I know the word is an esdrújula which by grammar rule in Spanish it will ALWAYS have the accentuation see here I understand this is the English wiki but accentuations of foreign words are valid. Concerning the not use of the accentuation by the official page means they made a grammatical error, which is very common on these pages about Colombian medium and small sized "cities". --((F3rn4nd0 ))^{(BLA BLA BLA)} 14:44, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

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