Talk:Microsoft Virtual PC

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Virtual PC for Macintosh switched to the AMI BIOS with version 7.0. I know that the Windows version was already using the AMI BIOS at that point, but I'm not sure if that was from inception, or if there was a change. Clarification would be appreciated.

I struck "Even although they already had VM software, but they didn't want VirtualPC to be shipped with a tiny version of RedHat Linux." because it's not a complete sentence and somewhat unclear as to what the point is, nor is it neutral in tone. Finally, as a former employee of Connectix, I can say without a doubt that VPC with Redhat Linux was dead long before the Microsoft acquisition.Unseelie 16:51, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Virtualisation or virtual machine?

This article defines Virtual PC (for Windows) as a virtualization product (a generic category that includes virtual machine). However, the very similar VMware is defined as a virtual machine product. Which is more right? I think they should be consistent unless there is a fundamental difference I mised. Notinasnaid 10:16, 16 January 2006 (UTC)


A virtual machine (VM) is a technical term from the CPU designer's point of view. Virtualization is the process of using it. Anyone got links to any references on original uses of the terms? They'de explain this better. I seem to remember seeing VM mentioned first in an Intel CPU document (286/386 or the like). The idea was to have each program think it was running it's own copy of DOS when ran under Windows or other multitasking managers. Deskview (spelling?) was another multitasking environment. In Microsoft Windows 3.x/95/98/ME, there are 2 files called EMM386.EXE and KERNEL32.DLL that might be interesting to research. VMM: Virtual Machine Manager EMM386.exe: Expanded Memory Manager (not exclusively EMS) EMS: Expanded Memory Specification XMS: eXtended Memory Specification VCPI: Virtual memory Control Program Interface (Can't have VMs without seperate memory spaces!)

Two good references: http://www.qualitas.com/product/max/history.htm http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/msdos/05_memry.mspx?mfr=true

Sorry if this was a little long.  :) JWhiteheadcc 03:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Canceled

This page needs to be updated because Microsoft canceled Virtual PC http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/08/07/vpc/index.php . There is a lot of work needed for this page since they are no longer developing it and I have no idea where to start. DidYouLoseASock 01:13, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps less work than you think. Just because products are discontinued, cancelled or dying, it doesn't affect what you write about them, except to remove discussions of the future and add a note about any official announcements. Notinasnaid 16:58, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
The work seems to be finished. Notinasnaid 17:01, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
I wouldn't go that far. But it's coming along nicely. -- Steven Fisher 19:57, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
I agree, there are a few things I see that need to be updated. DidYouLoseASock 21:59, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
If Virtual PC has a diffrent icon in windows then it should be changed to that. The image also should now be Vertual PC running in Windows. Best would be if some one could get an image of Vista running an older version of Windows. DidYouLoseASock 22:57, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dissappointed

Such a great piece of software, I wish I could say the same about this page. Unfortunately I cannot use this because I use Windows (What a Shame!)

Can you be more specific? This page covers both Mac and Windows versions of Virtual PC. What is disappointing? Notinasnaid 16:56, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I added a download link to External Links for MS' free version of Virtual PC for Windows. Unless you mean you're running an non-supported Operating System (IE 9x/ME).--70.18.190.183 19:47, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Virtual PC Guy

None of the External Links have a description after the link, so I dunno how this would look going after the blog link: " - Has articles on getting specific operating systems and legacy games running, as well as tips and tricks and scripting samples for both Virtual PC and Virtual Server." I think it would be helpful (I wouldn't expect to find info on how to get so many DOS games running. I'll let someone else add it if everyone doesn't think it'll break the format too much.--70.18.190.183 19:49, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pentium II with MMX

Isn't this sort of redundant? I used to think that Pentium II = Pentium Pro + MMX, and the Pentium II article essentially agrees with this. Was there ever a Pentium II without MMX instructions? At least according to the Wikipedia article, there wasn't. Aragorn2 13:43, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Formatting and FDISK within Microsoft Virtual PC

Is it safe to run disk format and FDISK within the virtual PC without damaging files on your physical hard disk?

Yes it is completly safe as far as I know and its incredibly fast compared to a real hard drive. --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dr.-B (talk • contribs) .
Note that if a real (physical) drive is connected to the VM, then the real drive will really be formatted really well. --Scott McNay 04:43, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Virtual PC 2007 Released 2007-02-19

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx

[edit] Controversy

I lack the prudence and grammar skills to create a consice edit, but I believe there deserves to be a controversy section to this article because of the recent ammendments to the Windows operating systems licence agreements that restrict usage of the OS in non-Microsoft-VPC products, such as VMware. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 222.154.253.105 (talk) 05:50, 5 March 2007 (UTC).

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