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CAN SOMEONE WHO KNOWS HOW PLEASE ADD A CURRENT EVENT TAG TO THIS PAGE??


"Near-improbability"? so, does that mean probability? how about "near impossibility" instead.



I don't like the caption under the picture. He was flipped by a tackler; he isn't showing his athleticism.Andrew zot 03:35, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Done. --daunrealist 23:56, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
And done again. GeorgeC 20:46, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

The use of "fan" in the following section is suspect. Whose fan? Certainly not a Vick fan. NFL fan? -- a larger set that would be too broad? I would revert back to "critics" from the prior sentence or further "detractors":

"Some fans have also reacted negatively to the constant media hype that surrounds Vick..."

The locality of the negative responses needs to be put into context -- perhaps they are coming out of pockets that have met defeat at the hands of Michael. The logic has been held that "Mike wins" which has often surpassed points and yardage logic didn't grab me from the article -- this has been a theme within the Falcons organization in the past. --Bammon 21:12, 24 December 2005 (UTC)


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[edit] MV7, Michael Vick Experience

Why is it that there is NOTHING in here about MV7 (from Nike Gridiron) and The Michael Vick Experience ride in Atlanta? I don't know enough about them, so don't tell me to write anything about it. --daunrealist 23:58, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm quite confident that the lawsuit was dropped. If we can find out if it did or not, perhaps we should add it to the "Ron Mexico" bit.

I wasn't aware of it. GeorgeC 20:46, 25 November 2005 (UTC)


How important was it to mention that he is an AFRICAN-AMERICAN football player? I have yet to see any EUROPEAN-AMERICAN professional athletes discribed as such.


Anyone just read what the most recent editor just wrote? Such a pile of biased horsecrap. Someone needs to clean this prejudiced crap up.

[edit] The Neutrality of this article

Quoting from the original article:

NFL career

In 2001, the Atlanta Falcons traded receiver Tim Dwight and several draft picks to the San Diego Chargers for their number one selection spot in the NFL draft. Eventually, San Diego selected Texas Christian running back LaDainian Tomlinson with one of those traded spots. This was known as the dumbest trade in the history of football.

Mike Vick would later be known for using the alias Ron Mexico, then having sexual relations with young women infecting them of the uncurable sexually transmitted disease: herpes- which they didn't know he had.

Mike Vick was once an icon and role model for today's youth, now disgracing the once respected city of Atlanta, which is quickly becoming known for it's gangs and "thugs" (also known as wannabe tough posers). Thank you Mike Vick.

Style of play

Vick is noted for being a running back in a quarter back position. This isn't to say he can only run, because his arm is suburb. However lack of film study, unmotivation, and unwillingness to learn how to read defenses make Vick a one diminsional player.


If anyone would have the time or interest to fix this sooner than in a week ( I'll be around to fix this then ) it would take some work off my load.

[edit] Weight

He's listed as two different contradictory weights. one of them is outlandish. Youdontsmellbad 01:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Falcons victory at Lambeau

The article attributes the win to Vick while he had an adequate performance and the defense and special teams unit scored once and forced five turnovers. You can't possibly attribute the win at Lambeau to Michael Vick AT ALL. There should be no tolerance for bias toward Vick. Wikipedia should stand for intelligence and knowledge while the rest are ignorant, not be a side-show where fanboys can broadcast their ignorant views and hide the truth. Someone tried to completely delete the details of what happened in the Playoffs at Lambeau field. I have absolutely all the time in the world to keep reverting to a version which isn't biased but still tells the details and doesn't attribute the win to Vick. - Max

I moved the Lambeau criticism to, well, the "Criticism" section. See how that works? It was never deleted. Next time, maybe you should check the entire article first... - Goo Paine 16:15, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
It didn't need to be moved to the "criticism" section since it isn't "criticism" it's merely a statement of the facts. At the very least you could acknowledge this and personally put it back where it belongs or change the word "led" to something more suitable. - Max

[edit] Blitz

I thought Vick's name in Blitz "Mexico" is from his nickname in High School/College "Mexico" because he would run for the "border" (endzone). His nickname could also be why he chose Mexico to be the last name of his alias. TVRJomar 21:06, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NFL Records

I'd like to see a subsection on Vick about NFL Records he has set. I think that would be cool to see on this page :) --Mjrmtg 23:52, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Found this info Vick's best career passer rating was 141.7 in a 41-0 win at Carolina on Nov. 24, 2002 cited --Mjrmtg 13:03, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Any idea where he is on the list of career rushing yards for a QB? He's < 200 yards behind John Elway, who is pretty high up there.


^ That was me, forgot to sign Cryomaniac 15:13, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Add his record for single season rushing record for a QB, set 12/16/06.

Someone should add his 40 times or something similar and put it in context. Weren't they talking about how crazy it was for a QB to be able to outrun DBs at one point? A lot of atheletes can be described as athelitic, fast and explosive. Drunken Pirate 03:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Didn't he run something like a 4.19? Thats close to an 11 second 100m, which is pretty damn good. Cryomaniac 00:40, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Obviously he wouldn't be able to maintain the pace over 100m (2.5x the distance).

[edit] Receiving yards

I'm going to put the receiving table back at some point, a QB having 2 career catches (especially since they were both to himself) is notable in some way, surely? I know that Elway had three catches, but they were on HB option plays, etc. Cryomaniac 15:13, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to assume there are no objections to this? Cryomaniac 00:45, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't care much. He caught them off of deflections because he is so short.

[edit] College Career

Vick's collegiate career is noteworthy (Heisman finalist as a sophomore, leading his team to a National Championship game) and should be mentioned. Nick.dilallo@gmail.com 07:00, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

He was a redshirt freshman. Arkon 23:03, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edited with the donation to charity for Vick's obscene gesture

Also, it was a minor edit (which I forgot to tick, sorry). I wondered why it wasn't already added. Bkid 04:34, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Good add. I noticed in the edit history that reference to this incident keeps being taken out. I hope that won't continue. IronDuke 04:36, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NFL STATS

I am responsible for updating most of Vick's rushing statistics ande current accomplishment on this page as a running QB. I need to access the page for weekly updates until January -- when the regular season is over. Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by No1vickfan (talk • contribs) 21:56, 17 December 2006 (UTC).

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that anyone can edit. As long as you don't break the rules, you have access to the page, as does everyone else on the planet.  ;) BigDT 01:31, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Never mind ... I see what you are talking about. This page is "semi-protected" because there was a lot of vandalism. Within a few fays, you will be able to edit it, even if nothing happens. There had been an orchestrated effort to vandalize Falcons pages ... ironically from Falcons fans themselves [1] ... but I think it's been long enough that we can request unprotection - the place to do that is WP:RFP and I'll go ahead and make that request. BigDT 01:35, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Don't Need a *Records* Category

This section, while seemingly interesting, is unneccessary and repetitive. Two of his records mentioned are mentioned elsewhere on the page. Also -- the line explaining the rushing record suggests Vick broke Bobby Douglass' record when Vick surpassed the 1,000-yard mark. However, Vick broke Douglass' record of 968 one week prior. On December 24th, when he eclipsed the 1,000-yard mark, Vick broke HIS OWN single-season rushing record of 990 QB rushing yards, set December 16th. I propose deleting the *Records* heading, unless its author substantially adds to it. Compare the Records category for Peyton Manning, for instance. (No1vickfan)

You can only set one record for rushing yards in a single season. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.17.87.90 (talk) 22:05, 19 January 2007 (UTC).
The entry under Records about his "contract" is an incomplete sentence, but I don't know what the intention of the sentence is in respect to a record so don't know how to fix it. --Mjrmtg 13:33, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
I went ahead and modified information regarding Vick's rushing records under the Records section, as per my complaint on this discussion page. I still believe the category is unnecessary, per my reasons stated above. (No1Vickfan)

[edit] marijuana water bottle

why isn't this in the article? --E tac 06:54, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

methinks the "Water bottle incident" section covers that -- apparently there was no drugs confirmed in the bottle -- although that didn't stop SNL from making fun of the situation :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjtVnqZCndo 199.214.26.24 16:24, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Records and Milestones Clean-up

Several new entries seem to be outdated and subjective. There's a line in this category about Vick becoming a bonafide star worthy of MVP attention, after just his first year. While that statement may be true, it does not belong in this section. Also, several of his milestones set in 2004 and 2005 have since been surpassed and are no longer applicable, in my opinion. I will delete them as necessary in the coming days. (No1Vickfan) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 165.2.186.10 (talk) 00:02, 31 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Images, POV, Clean-up

All the images that were in this article belong to the NFL or another Publishing Company; Thye cannot be used without proper consent, fair use rationale, or purpose. One cannot use an image just for the hell of it - especially own with a strict copy right. The image is not only being used without permission, but also unlawfully. An Admin is not needed to remove the image, but only to properly delete them.

Additionally, several claims in this article push Wikipedia's WP:NPOV policies. Additionally there are no sources to back up the claim. While they content may be true, Wikipedia requires legitimate sources back up the article's claims. There's no concrete evidence that shows this article was written by a supposed professional and collegiate educated individual; leading one to believe that the article's claims could have been written by anyone and could contain anything. See WP:Verify, WP:OR, WP:Cite and WP:RS - That's WP Five Policies that this article's claims do not meet. --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk  00:44, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Fairly Well-Done --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk  23:33, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] STATS

Vick passed for 16 TD's in 2002, not 8. FYI. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by APOSMUSIC (talk • contribs) 06:41, 15 February 2007 (UTC).

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