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[edit] Cutler Ridge

The Cutler Ridge area is now a city of its own, right? --Joel M. 03:48, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)

I am fairly sure that Cutler Ridge is not its own city. It is still simply an unincorporated area like Kendall. --Ameinias

It is an incorporated city now. It was incorporated on January of this year. --Moreau36 0553; 15 November 2005 (UTC)

It's name was also changed to Cutler Bay, Florida last year. - Marc Averette 16:14, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up for me guys. --Joel M. 03:12, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Urban Developement Boundary

I was wanted to develop an article that discussing Miami-Dade County's reconsideration of moving the UDB farther west. I have never created an article, and do not know where to start. Could someone point me in the right direction? Thanks alot. Ameinias 02:19, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Miami street grid

I've moved the following edit here because it is overly technical and unsourced. -- Dalbury(Talk) 17:48, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

The grid loosely follows a Cartesian coordinate system. There are four quadrants" North East, North West, South West, South East. The "origin" of the grid is the intersection of Flagler Street (x = 0) and Miami Avenue (y = 0); therefore this would be plotted as (0,0) on a graph. Any street south of Flagler is "negative"; once you past Flagler going south, the street numbers increase because you are increasing your distance from the "origin". An avenue west of Miami Avenue is also considered "negative", and increase in value the farther one is from the "origin".
All north-south streets have an "avenue" or "road" affixed to its numerical value. All avenues that end with the number "7" are major avenues. One mile separates 10 avenue blocks. For example, a there are three miles distance between 7th Avenue and 37th Avenue. Most major avenues other than those that end with a "7", end with "2". Avenues such as 42nd Avenue, represents a half mile marker between 37th Avenue and 47th Avenue.
All roads running east-west are called "Streets" of "Drives". In the second table, streets do not seem to follow a pattern, but most do. In the southern quadrants of the county, the major streets run by 16's, which is visible in the streets from South 88th Street (North Kendall Drive) to South 24th Street (Coral Way). Going by 16's we can see the major streets: 24, 40, 56, 72, 88. Even streets that are listed here follow the same rule, and are major streets. South 168th Street is also a major street because 152 + 16 is 168. Similar to avenues, the distance between every 16 street blocks is one mile. This creates a larger grid of one-mile-by-one-mile major grid of major streets and avenues, along with a smaller grid for roads in between. This "rule of 16" is not as applicable to streets north of Flagler, and is not followed as strictly as the "rule of 7" for the avenues.

Does this mean that the above should not be included in the article because it is too technical? I think that the nature of the grid accompanies the table of the major street names. Ameinias 19:21, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

All the stuff about Cartesian grids is unnecessary. It's especially confusing to talk about "negative" streets. I also think that the 'rule of 7' and the 'rule of 16' are too esoteric for this article. It is enough to say that the street grid is based on Miami Avenue and Flagler Street, that numbered 'avenues', 'courts' and 'places' run north-south, and numbered 'streets', 'terraces' and 'ways' run east-west, and that addresses north of Flagler Street and east of Miami Avenue are 'Northeast', north of Flagler Street and West of Miami Avenue are 'Northwest', south of flagler Street and east of Miami Avenue are 'Southeast', and south of Flagler Street and west of Miami Avenue are 'Southwest'. There is the one section of Miami where the street grid is turned 45°, and avenues run northeast to southwest, while roads run northwest to southeast. Other than that, 'road' and 'drive' are not used for numbered streets. And, of course, Miami Beach, Hialeah and Homestead all have their own numbered street grid systems. And this all has to be sourced. The site at [1] covers part of it, but I can't find a good source, other than a map, to document the use of 'court', 'place', 'terrace', and 'way' in the number grid system, although I do remember reading that many years ago, and know that is how streets are named in Miami. -- Dalbury(Talk) 20:19, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
I think a separate article for South Florida road numbering system would be a valuable article. ℬastique▼parℓer♥voir♑ 20:31, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
I'll have to find a source as well, although mine regarding "streets", "terraces", etc. is for Broward County. BTW, Dalbury, Roads and Drives are, in fact, used for offshoots of Streets and/or Avenues, at least here in Broward County. It doesn't preclude their usage with non-numbered streets. I'm not sure if that system is the same as in Miami-Dade. ℬ 20:40, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
The default numbered street grid systems in south Florida seems to be on the same basis as Miami's (i.e., NW, NE, SE, SW), although there are exceptions (Miami Beach and Hialeah, that I know of). There are a number of different street grids in Palm Beach County, including one for the unincorporated part of of the eastern half of the county.

'Road' and 'drive' are used for non-numbered names of streets in Miami that are supplemental to the numbered street system, so that Gratigny Drive is also N 119th Street, and LeJeune Road is also W 42nd Ave. But there is no particular pattern for which is used, as Bird Road is S 40th Street, and Red Road is W 57th Ave, so that Red Road and Bird Road intersect (there are several businesses near the intersection with 'Red Bird' in their names). -- Dalbury(Talk) 21:48, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Right, I see. Something like Boulevard (E-W) and Road (N-S) in Broward County, except that sometimes--like Ocean Boulevard (N-S) or McNab Road (E-W) things are a bit different. ℬastique▼parℓer♥voir♑ 20:00, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Demographics

According to the cenus website (the map of Florida counties by percentages of those that are white, non-hispanic) [[2]], Miami-Dade County is 20% Non-Hispanic white, not 11%. Could somebody verify which figure is more accurate? 71.161.247.147 16:01, 22 December 2006 (UTC)Mike

The table at the Census Bureau site does not break down Hispanic/Latino by race. The percentage for Non-Hispanic whites given in the article appears to have been derived by subtracting *all* Hispanics for the number of whites, although it is too low even for that (69.70% - 55.32% = 14.38%, not 13.67%). I've moved the offending statment here: "Non-Hispanic whites make up 13.67% of the population." We need to find a reliable source that actually states that percentage. -- Donald Albury 02:54, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed from Category: Florida counties?

Is there a reason why this article was removed? Now all the counties in Florida except Miami-Dade are in the category. Should they be removed as well? Was this done in error? - Marc Averette 13:22, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind - I see the new cat charter counties - Marc Averette 19:05, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA failed

Needs much more work for GA - references, considerable expansion, and the "Cities, towns, villages, unincorporated communities, and public high schools" section needs some serious work, starting with splitting it up into several sections. - Aerobird Target locked - Fox One! 02:27, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Name change

I think a link about why the county changed its name, and perhaps the voting percentage/total, would be good. OverMyHead 19:23, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm also curious as to why the county got its name changed. If I'm not mistaken, it had something to do with tourism. I could be wrong; I was young when they changed the name, so I'm not really sure, but that should definitely be included in the article. Skillz187 02:37, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 2007 government form change?

I've read that Miami-Dade had a change in its form of government in January 2007. Does this page reflect that change? There is talk about a change in 1992, but the more recent one appears to have stirred up quite a lot of press, so it should be addressed (by someone who knows what happened!)Geoffwithers 17:15, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History

The history section needs work. I found a PDF from the official Miami-Dade site claiming that the County was was created January 18, 1836. Also, it has wonderful information on the county.[1].Skillz187 18:42, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

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