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[edit] Plase cease editing talk page for Birktek

Metro please stop restoring this page. I am unclear as to why you persist without cause? I am asking you and under the rules am entitled this request.

Metros232, please cease your editing of my user talk and user pages. I want to invoke my right to vanish [1] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Birktek (talk • contribs) 02:12, 3 December 2006 (UTC).


[edit] Wiki Entry for Joseph Gallo

First I want to thank you for vandalism patrolling, Metros232, and for catching obvious sophomoronic attempts to smear professional people who have specific information listed as a way to be distinguished from others who have the same name.

Please revert to the previous version of the Joseph Gallo page, which already contains a link to Joseph N. Gallo embedded. I changed the page today and you reverted it some three minutes later. I am the poet and have an interest in this page being more broadly inclusive as this is the only way many people have of both identifying and finding me for further contact.

Thanks for your efforts and I appreciate your cooperation. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.219.249.85 (talk • contribs).

No, the page will remain in its current state, as a redirect to Joseph N. Gallo. What you want to include is not notable. And it is an improper way of formatting disambiguation pages. Disambiguation pages list links to articles on people or things with similar names. The Joseph Gallo you want to link to (aka yourself) doesn't have an article, therefore, no disambig page is necessary. Metros232 20:53, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

We can change that.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.219.249.85 (talk • contribs).

Wikipedians decide what is notable and what is not with notability standards such as WP:BIO. Metros232 22:58, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re High School reference you provided

Nothing works for me. This place is a fraud (Wikipedia). But thanks for continuing to believe in good will, as most people simple revert whatever inconvenienct such tag is placed on their article without doing anything. So I commend you for keeping your head above water and remaining hopeful that this mess (Wikipedia) is actually is meaningful -- given the amount of mess and fraud most of it is. (I am operating under another name, as I have given up on any kind of real contribution because real work is inconvenient to so many people that punishment of workers is the rule.) I have dealt with you before (under my constructive, hard working name) so I am in awe that you are actually responding and seeming to care -- never has happened before. Xampt 01:10, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

After that comment to me, it's fairly obvious who you are. So might I suggest if you're trying to be covert around here, try to be a little more subtle about your past (avoid editing most of the articles you did: you always loved Indian-related articles, the Fidel Castro article, and after that unfortunate AfD, had a strong disdain for high school articles). And that's just based on 10 of your edits so far. Just a word to the wise, Metros232 01:39, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Ah, and speaking of avoiding things that once occurred, do you think it was wise to visit RJHall's talk page? Metros232 01:48, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re High School reference you provided

Nothing works for me. This place is a fraud (Wikipedia). But thanks for continuing to believe in good will, as most people simple revert whatever inconvenienct such tag is placed on their article without doing anything. So I commend you for keeping your head above water and remaining hopeful that this mess (Wikipedia) is actually is meaningful -- given the amount of mess and fraud most of it is. (I am operating under another name, as I have given up on any kind of real contribution because real work is inconvenient to so many people that punishment of workers is the rule.) I have dealt with you before (under my constructive, hard working name) so I am in awe that you are actually responding and seeming to care -- never has happened before. Xampt 01:10, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

After that comment to me, it's fairly obvious who you are. So might I suggest if you're trying to be covert around here, try to be a little more subtle about your past (avoid editing most of the articles you did: you always loved Indian-related articles, the Fidel Castro article, and after that unfortunate AfD, had a strong disdain for high school articles). And that's just based on 10 of your edits so far. Just a word to the wise, Metros232 01:39, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Who cares? Not me. I have no intention, whatever your hypotheses are, to ever contribute anything of use to this place again. Think what you may. Everyone does, whether it's true or not. It's irrelevant to me. I've been accused of various identities and other bad things and I don't care anymore.
By the way, the only school article I ever cared about was my own elementary school, which I saved by improving it (with the help of an unknown wonderful person). That's the extent of my interest in schools, except that I think that schools are such a little percentage of the junk on Wikipedia that I do not understand why it's such a big deal to bother not keeping them.
But, of course, you know everything. (But not really.) You aare just accepting the party line. And me, above reproach in the real (non-wikipedia world) am now , appaarently on a criminal Wikipedia list. Thanks for your irrelevant none-inof. I take back anything good I may have said about you. You are part (obviously) of the click gang. Guess I'll change my name again -- having zero investment -- who cares. Last you will hear from me, as this was obviously a purposeless last-attempt reaching out. And I aam not trying to be "covert" around here, as you suggest, because what would be the point and bother to do so? That is exactly what I have totally given up. There is no point in being covert or otherwise if you don't care. So why should I bother? Xampt 02:16, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
If you keep saying why should I care, why should I bother, this place is ridiculous...what keeps drawing you back? I'm not part of some gang out to get you, I'm just saying that you recognize that there are some people who will shut you down if they find you out...so why make it obvious that you've returned? I'm just trying to help you out, whether you want to accept what I'm saying as help that's your call. I have nothing against you. I think that if you want to contribute positively, more power to you. Metros232 02:32, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Since you are practically the only person on my new-identity watch-list, plus you actually replied, I also will reply. Why bother with Wikipedia? It's a mindless way of having something to do while winding up or down, like reading the comics or playing a game at odd spaced-out moments in daily life. There is no way to contribute positively to Wikipedia for me because there is always an unforeseen mindfield to step into (whatever new topic I try) and no protection for an innocent party once that has happened. No, I'll just use Wikipedia to vent my Wikipedia-generated hostility. I am way too uninformed to deal with this place and be, as you recommend, more subtle.
Again though, I suggest to you as I have suggested many times in other places, I think the disillusionment would be less if Wikipedia did not present itself as such a wonderful, kind, helpful place but rather warned the new user to beware of the organized hate groups, vested interests, and protected, sacred cow people and other pitfalls. If I had the expertise, time, etc. I would become a major vandal -- that is how strongly negatively I feel. I know where the mentality of vandalism comes from due to my Wikipedia experience.
And how can I possibly care if they shut me down? That only meant something when I was working hard on articles and cared. For my purposes now, being shut down would be rewarding as it would mean you were actually paying attention to my stupid little (and you are saying, transparant) inputs. I am hardly any kind of threat to Wikipedia and never have been. That idea is giving me way too much credit. At my worst I never did anything more than just be (transparently) annoying -- flipping out after weeks of being under constant duress while receiving no help or defense -- nothing even remotely as mean or harsh as measures instantly taken against me. Xampt 13:17, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Email

I responded to your email. I really don't know for sure, but I asked another admin to review it. Nishkid64 00:33, 19 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Wikification

Hi! I got your message. I didn't know I'd become a trusted member of the wikification project! :) I only had a quick look a at a few of the edits User:JubalHarshaw made recently, and they seem okay to me. The degree to which additional links are added does't have hard and fast rules. What one person might consider relevant to add as a link, others might not. I might have added a couple more here or there but I don't see a huge problem with what he has done. Are there particular articles that you felt are of concern? Regards. --Whpq 16:19, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, please, cite me some examples so I can improve them. I was totally unaware that your concern about my work (or lack thereof) was at the level where you'd consult other wikifiers. JubalHarshaw 02:23, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
You could have cited the examples you provided to Whpq to me just as easily. I'm confused as to why you did not. JubalHarshaw 02:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
I have some made some improvements to the articles you references on the above user's talk page. Perhaps next time you would bring your concerns directly to me? JubalHarshaw 04:59, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Virginia State Route 16

I don't understand. Are you saying that someone who is reading about the history and wonders where Mouth of Wilson is (once an article is written there, which will eventually happen) must scroll up and find the link to it?

The two Stony Ridge links are different; one is for the actual ridge and one is for the community named after it.

Can you point out which references are used more than once?

Thank you for reviewing it, but I believe your comments to be misguided. --NE2 19:46, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Only make links that are relevant to the context#What generally should not be linked, specifically the 3rd bullet of that. That explains that things should not be linked multiple times as they clutter the page and make maintenance harder.
Also see Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links)#Overlinking. This explains what I mean by having too much linking in the article. Other terms I see appearing frequently are Volney, Brushy Mountain, and North Tazewell.
As for references, at least the reference that cites the July 24 and 25, 1931 meeting is linked twice. Also look at WP:CITE because the references probably need some cleaning up. I'm not sure exactly how to cite minutes like that, but you'd probably need to add at least the publisher and date you access the minutes, especially since this is coming through a web citation.
Hope this helps and clears up that my comments weren't, in fact, misguided. Metros232 19:57, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
"It is not uncommon to repeat a link that had last appeared much earlier in the article, but there's hardly ever a reason to link the same term twice in the same section." I believe I follow this.
There are actually two separate mountains named Brushy Mountain, which I am unsure about how to disambiguate: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mountains#Figuring out the name of a mountain.
Are you saying that the status of this article depends on whether other articles exist - so if I made the red links blue this could be a good article?
I hadn't noticed the duplicated reference; thanks.
Why would the date I accessed the minutes matter? The minutes were created long ago; they don't change. --NE2 20:35, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
A better way to think of the "how often to re-wikilink" question is to look at the page. If you generally see the term more than once in the same view, then it's probably better to link it just once. If it's a longer article and you've scrolled down where you can't see the first instance anymore before you get to the second one, then it's a good idea to wikilink again. I'm not saying that "you'll never be a good article because you have too many redlinks" but what I am saying is that you have an excessive amount of links period and this includes a lot of redlinks. It'd be best to reduce the number.
And as for the dates on the citation, that's pretty much to say that "As of such and such a date, this webpage containing this information was up and readily available as cited". Not "as of this date, the minutes stated this." Metros232 00:11, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
It looks like the whole good article process is too anal retentive for me to bother with. And for what - a plus sign on the talk page? I don't think so. --NE2 00:21, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Mattisse

Well, there really is no reason to block Xampt, since he was not really being disruptive. However, I appreciate the fact that you went as far as to pursue the matter on your own hands. I don't think any action will be taken on Mattisse, and hopefully she won't keep opting to use sockpuppets. Nishkid64 23:01, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Auburn Adventist Academy

As to your comment and bloacking of the Auburn Adventist Academy page. So if I email or put something on the website stating that is can be used. Then my information I had on the Auburn Adventist Academy page will come back? Yes or NO? and when i say information I mean all the stuff I had on the page. The whole entire page back to normal. Will its? Again Yes or No? --User:Antwonw

Probably. you'd have to send an email proving you have permission to use it. Metros232 15:02, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Professional Organizing

Please advise why adding a link to professional organizing in the manner I did was considered inappropriate. Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rfein1 (talk • contribs).

Because, basically, you were spamming the articles with a link to your article. The links you were adding had little to no relevance to the articles to which you added them. It'd be like me adding "See also Hood College" to any article that involved some term about education. It's remotely related, but isn't appropriate to add it. Metros232 17:45, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Inverness Royal Academy

Thank you for cleaning up my wikifying mistakes on Inverness Royal Academy. I'm new and just getting the hang of it.

Stu1024 21:11, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pelican Shit

He's banned. That's the reason he's tagged. --SunStar Net 00:17, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry. Apologies for that. But people like Karmafist etc. aren't denied "banned" notices. --SunStar Net 10:07, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Editor review

See your editor review.... it's positive! --SunStar Net 13:00, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Greenbrier, Virginia

You disambiguated Indian River High School to Indian River High School (Delaware) on the Greenbrier, Virginia page... even though Delaware is definitely not the Indian River High in Virginia —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 5ptcalvinist (talk • contribs).

My apologies, I must have clicked the wrong link when disambiguating the links. I just went back and doubled checked my other disambigs for that and it looks like that's the only one that was in error. Metros232 23:44, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Belinda Evans

Hi,

Thanks for your message. Thinking about it again, I probably shouldn't have wikify templated this, it isn't bad. I guesss I didn't like the style of the biography paragraph, (lots of short sentences like "Evans this...,""Evans that..." in quick succession. I'll remove the template and perhaps just have a look at it myself!

Best wishes,

Mdcollins1984 08:00, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AGS

Then would you please stop removing the picture of the School. It is the only licenced photo the principal will allow to be used. Got a problem with it, send an email to her. You'll find her email addy on the AGS website. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cal118 (talk • contribs).

I've replied on your talk page to keep the discussion centralized. Metros232 14:42, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nas v. Jay-Z

I see your are about to list this article on AfD. Conceding that there are several problems with the article in the current condition, I do not think the problems rise to the level of deletion. They can be fixed in time. Please re-consider. Ramsquire (throw me a line) 22:08, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Discuss why you think that in the AfD. Metros232 22:11, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
I guess I was too late in making my request. When I went to vote, the AfD wasn't up yet, so I figured I'd discuss it with you before it went live. My response is on the AfD page now though. Ramsquire (throw me a line) 22:23, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fantastic

You just sent a message to a fairly sizable portion of people accessing the wikipedia at Carleton University. We get split about 20 ways, so there's no differentiation for a particular jackass who has a hate-on against some BC college. So just a little tip, next time, run an ip check at What's my IP?. It'll save you some embarassment. --134.117.196.54 17:35, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Right, however, a shared IP that vandalizes is still vandalism. A vandal needs to be warned. If it gets to the point where we realize that there's a LOT of vandalism coming from an IP, we have to take action. So because of a jackass, you all would be harmed. So try to keep the jackasses in line instead of telling me about how I just embarrassed myself by placing a vandalism warning properly. Thanks, Metros232 17:39, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Well how exactly do you propose that we keep people in line? It's a fairly large campus. And using PCs is consdered fairly private. And since there's no central authority on computer use on campus (aside from don't do anything illegal), and there's no tracking, it's impossible to pin down the individual jackass who went and vandalized the article. And since this guy is probably a vandalizing jackass, it's not likely that he'll pay attention to a warning that you send him. I understand that you're just doing your job, but what you're doing is incredibly futile.

[edit] Nagel Middle School

I know some of that might not be encylopedic, but it adds some info to the page. I cannot find a reason why it shouldn't be on there (the only four reasons I can think of removing some thing are 1.It has no source 2.It is vandilism 3. It makes the page too long 4.It is innacurate). Noha307 20:04, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Lack of information > unencyclopedic cruft that is just added to fill space. Metros232 20:19, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AFC West

It's almost all lists, no refs/ext links/sections, etc. Sumoeagle179 20:23, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Well in that case maybe template:expand, template:sections, and template:unreferenced would be more appropriate. Metros232 20:28, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry

Uh oh! I am extremely sorry for the mistake. Yes, I have done moves previously, along with, of course, history merge. This was a mistake. In fact, I have done same mistake for another article today, I guess! Have to check out. I am sorry. This won't be repeated. Thanks a lot. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:51, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

It's okay. If you crawl back into my first archive, my first edits made the same mistake. Whoops :) Metros232 16:53, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Couldn't resist

Afraid I lobbed a hand grenade at the newbie. Is that greater than or lesser than biting them? Fethers 21:01, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

I've left a message on yours, Brettybabe, and Shen's talk pages. Just leave each other alone, walk away from it all, and let things go back to normal. The article is gone, the discussion is close, there is nothing left to do now (and bashing each other isn't productive). Metros232 22:36, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

just ansewer this then how am i doing Vandalism to your page looks to me like your the one doing the Vandalism by removing everything that makes you look bad even when its the truth Shen420 02:15, 14 November 2006 (UTC) i just read the Vandalism page and i qoute "Vandalism is any addition, deletion, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia." witch i hawell ok ve not done at all

You're right, vandalism might be the wrong term. Harrassment, however, is something your actions qualify as. Metros232 02:24, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Harrassment? well hrmm ok i geuss if showing you the errors of your ways is something you dont like to hear then i geuss so Shen420 03:20, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Arroyo Seco Junior High School

Good work. Keep at it. Thanks for helping out. -Will Beback · † · 18:02, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] University of Mary Washington

Hi, there. Do you have any thoughts regarding the middlesell.com link that keeps getting added to University of Mary Washington? --Takeel 03:07, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey, Marylander--knock it off. No one is touching your school. Leave the University of Mary Washington page alone. Our site is used as a portal by over one half of the University of Mary Washington, and it's an invaluable (you probably don't know what that word means since you attend Hood College) resource for our student body. Furthermore, how can you "holier than thou" editors remove our link when leaving up the other two--ones which are not on the umw.edu domain?

Sounds to me like we have some corruption and bias within wikipedia. Oh, and if you delete this, you'll just prove my point? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Analyzethis (talk • contribs).

No one is touching my school because I am not adding inappropriate links. You don't have the right to tell me to stay off the page because this is a Wiki and anyone can edit anything so long as they stay without the policies and guidelines of the community. Your edits are outside those policies and guidelines. Metros232 04:04, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Note: I consider this comment a threat. Also, I wish you wouldn't break the rules. Please see the following: Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers, Wikipedia:Etiquette, Wikipedia:Assume good faith. One would think that nice people such as you wouldn't be so harsh to a newcomer like me. Your rudeness is unbecoming.67.131.148.171 01:00, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
And just how exactly do you find it to be a threat? Metros232 01:01, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re [2]

I have been placing the template when there are multiple reports listed on WP:AIV since an administrative response to active vandalism is somewhat time-critical. John254 05:03, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ElecoSlim

Sorry I created this stub.... I created a fair few of them... sorry! Maybe they should be deleted... my mistake! --SunStar Net 15:57, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Then why don't you tag them as {{db-author}}? Metros232 16:02, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
All deleted under CSD A7. --SunStar Net 16:38, 19 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Please remove the edit

Please remove the article from the deletion. The mention of "Another school" Has triggered it. Remove the tag immediatly as I' am cleaning up the article now. I will remove it myself if nesscery. Galactian 19:14, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

No, I will not. The subject is not notable. He is simply the headmaster of a school. Every school has one, so unless he has done something special and noteworthy, he doesn't need an article. Metros232 19:16, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How do you..

I have a question about the following: A tag has been placed on "this page" requesting it be speedily deleted. It seems to be about..... Please place {{Hangon}}...

What tag is used to say that?? please let me know, Ardo 19:19, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about. Are you talking about the speedy deletion template? Like {{db-bio}}? Metros232 19:21, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

No, the tag to tell someone that a tag has been placed on the following page, please place {{hangon}} on the talk page... like that. What tag is used to tell a user that their page has been put up for speedy deletion? Ardo 19:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

{{subst:nn-warn|page name}} -- ~~~~ It's on the bottom of the speedy delete template when you add it to an article. That one works for any non-notable thing. There are others that can be used for copyright violations and other topics that speedy deletion covers. Metros232 19:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Just saw your message on Galactian's talk page. Ardo wants to raise his edit count so he can use VandalProof (you need 250 mainspace for that, and he only has like 120). Nishkid64 19:43, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Ahh, go figure. Glancing at the user's contributions really quickly, I didn't guess that as I see almost no reverts of vandalism lately. Just a lot of {{db-bio}}s to new articles and userspace edits. Thanks for clarifying that. I wish users would show a need for tools such as VP rather than editing until they reach the ultimate goal. Metros232 19:50, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I never put the swearing on his page

I never, I did nothing on the page, he is an abusive sockpuppet, and is causing trouble to me. Sorry, perhaps I was wrong to retaliate. I'AM NOT PROFESSOR SUNDERLAND. Sorry, but no, I' am just helping out here, so leave me dude.

Sunderland blocked, Galactian blocked. Thanks. Nishkid64 23:03, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CEASE AND DESIST! RE: YOUNG NUMISMATISTS OF AMERICA

Dude, The Young Numismatists of America is a separate entity from the American Numismatic Association. As a club, we are a member of the ANA, but the ANA does not have any ruling over us. Why are you destroying our Wikipedia article? Totally uncool. It's BS that it's being slated for deletion and being merged with the ANA article. I don't know why you have to edit something you have no connection to just because a change has been reverted. Perhaps the change was reverted for a reason? I DO NOT APPRECIATE THIS VANDALISM. CEASE AND DESIST. Thajigisup 06:48, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Young Numismatists of America on deletion review

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Young Numismatists of America. Since you closed the deletion discussion for (or speedy-deleted) this article, your reasons on how or why you did so will be greatly appreciated in the above review.

[edit] Congratulations

You're now an admin, so have fun using the new tools to help the project keep improving. Be conservative with the tools especially blocking, but as you get the hang of it do help clear out the backlogs as you mentioned. Re-read the policies before acting and don't hesitate to ask for help if you are unsure. Otherwise, keep up the good work and again, congrats

Thanks, I hope I don't disappoint too much :) Metros232 20:40, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Yep, congratulations, form one new admin to another Template:Emot Martinp23 20:50, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Happy Admininizing (okay so its not a word I know) for you! Glad to see you made it through. --Simonkoldyk 21:38, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
CONGRATULATIONS METROS!!!!!! Have fun with the new tools, and if you ever need help, feel free to contact me. Nishkid64 02:27, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Re:WP:RFPP review

Hey there Metros! I hope you're adjusting well to your new admin tools. =) I believe your declination of the RFPP for YNA is valid. You're doing perfectly fine. We all know what the user's intentions are, so there's no point in actually listening to what they're saying. Keep up the good work, though. =) By the way, if you really feel you have been involved in an article that has an RFPP up, then it's recommended you don't involve yourself in the decision to protect/unprotect the page. You may have seen that Khoikhoi, a fellow admin, has sent quite a few articles to RFPP because he himself was involved, or knows about the article, and feels that his knowledge may influence the decision. And if you ever need any more help, I'm free to give a helping hand. =) Nishkid64 02:32, 21 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Wiki entry for University of Mary Washington

Notoriety or the value of such a quality is subject to interpretation. Though I am sure your intentions are good, this clearly an error and thus will be replaced. I would appreciate that investigate the matter further before you rush to judgment as this would best serve the position you hold as a trusted editor.

Once Again you have faield to define Notoriety as it related to this post and have violated the 5 pillars of which wikipedia is based. I have been left with no choice but to report you to the amdinstration group. ({unsigned|Birktek}}

Okay...well I AM an adminstrator, but that's neither here or there. What exactly did I violate on the 3 pillars of Wikipedia? By 3 pillars do you mean five pillars? Metros232 18:24, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My talk page

I'm just letting you know why I reverted your revert. I keep all comments on my talk page, the only time I revert is if someone edits somebody else's messages. I realise you're on vandal patrol and it makes sense to just neutralise trollish behaviour (I frequent RC Patrol). So thanks for the revert, but I prefer to keep the comments whether nonsense, vandalism or whatever. Thanks, James086 Talk | Contribs 14:52, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay, your call on that one. Metros232 14:52, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Brothers Past

I have attempted to add this increasingly popular band to the wiki archives so that information concerning this band could be easily accesible and so that information could expand beyond their official message boards. I initially wrote a long entry, which was quite promptly deleted, and then several progessively more concise and objective descriptions, all of which were deleted without fair cause. The last reason you gave was that the band was a "non-notable band". This strikes me as unfair, ignorant, and uninformed. What qualifies a band as notable enough - your personal interest and familiarity, MTV fame, billboard charts, sold out arenas? These guys have been around for 6 years and have played over 650 shows, and while not everybody in many of the circle I know cares for them, they are quite well known in the Northeast and abroad. They have consistently sold out 600-800+ person venues around the major cities of the Northeast. Furthermore, how can they not qualify as notable enough band when the Pnuma Trio already has a wiki and they were formed LESS THAN 2 YEARS AGO, they open for bands who open for Brothers Past, they have released a single album and it's merely a live album, have played at best just over 100 shows, charge half the price of Brothers Past, have 1/5 of the turnout at shows, etc. Delete them if you delete Brothers Past (but not really because Pnuma rocks).

I just find it unfair to delete a band with such uninformed haste. I understand that this website must deal with a good amount of spam and vandalism, but in this case the band qualifies as neither and would not only be the right thing to do based on the bands status, but a kind thing to do for their adoring fans and those interested in learning more. I know I use wikipedia for practically every band I get into so that I can learn more about them, their style, and their history. Thanks for the consideration, and please review your decision to remove them from this wiki. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by PhunkyBob (talk • contribs).

If you wish to appeal the deletion, please take it to deletion review. It's been deleted 4 times in the last 5 months as a non-notable band. Take a look at WP:MUSIC for notability standards. Metros232 15:37, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hey

Since you speedied Arutam, would you mind closing its AfD? I created it before realising that the article was a copyvio. Thanks! riana_dzasta 16:41, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I was in the process of closing it as I got your message :) When I hit preview on my close, I saw I had new messages. Metros232 16:43, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Ah, never understimate the attention to detail of a brand new admin! ;) Hope it's going well. riana_dzasta 16:46, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

For the speedy delete in my user space. Crockspot 19:24, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Climb a Volcano

I'll feel sure if myself if someone else can try to check things for me. After they claim we "harrass six year old children" I decided to check up on cmn.org, The Global Fund, and the site itself. NONE of the organizations (other than the site itself) have any MENTION of this. -WarthogDemon 20:33, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anti-vandalness

The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For your crazy number of vandalism reverts. I see you reverting all the time and now you can block aswell! James086 Talk | Contribs 02:40, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thank you for blocking that one. He deleted my userpage and talkpage. Thanks,Asher Heimermann 06:09, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. And while we're at it. Don't EVER sign as me again, okay? Edits like [3] are not appropriate. Metros232 06:11, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
I am so sorry. When I was doing "LAST WARNING" I forgot to delete your name and replace with my name. Asher Heimermann 06:13, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Body pump

He did respond on his talk page just as you were writing your message to me, saying that he is the administrator of the website that you got your information from, or something like that. We reverted back and forth a couple times and he has not edited in the past few minutes. Since the AFD is still going on, I don't think we should put too mchu more effort into this, but the way he is editing is clearly not right. Academic Challenger 06:38, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for looking into this. What's so odd is that Pipera posted the message about it on the forum on October 17th. Now there's a denial that ever happened? Weird. Metros232 06:42, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Huh, just found this edit. Metros232 06:47, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

It is pretty weird. It seems like they have given up for now, though. Academic Challenger 06:55, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] PUATraining.com deletion

Hi, I wish to enquire as to why my article, PUATraining.com was deleted. In my eyes it does not differ greatly from other articles about other seduction companies- in fact, we have not posted 'Reviews' advertising our products nor even listed them as you will find in the articles for RSD, Badboy and Mystery Method where the impression of advertising is far greater than in ours. What portions exactly do you consider as 'advertising'?

Kind Regards,

Kidtonio 12:38, 24 November 2006 (UTC)Kidtonio

Pretty much everything in yours is advertising. In addition, you give no sources, just one image of a newspaper in which it is mentioned. All it does is explain "the SYSTEM" which doesn't cite anything such as who considers it vital (aside from you) for successful female-male relationships. There really isn't much in there that's factually based and sourced. Metros232 14:24, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
As for the other articles, feel free to nominate them for deletion at any time. Metros232 14:28, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm confused as to how documenting our company is considered as advertising. Do you mean to say that any branded product, including branded cereals or clothing brands, that has a Wiki entry is a form of advertising? If this is the case (which I suspect it is) then why are we being singled out? Not much about the Seduction Community is factually based since it is based on conceptual theory- the only real way to provide solid evidence would be to show the results of our SYSTEM- which we, unlike other entries (see Badboy)- have not done by posting 'Reviews' of our products- a blatant example of advertising. The newspaper is more of a source than other entries- which have no source entries. Kidtonio 17:38, 24 November 2006 (UTC)Kidtonio
I've restored your article and nominated it for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PUATraining.com. This will allow more people to examine the article and come to a consensus on it. This will allow some of your points to be addressed better and this way you don't feel like I'm the only one deciding your article's fate. That work for you? Metros232 18:08, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
More people meaning users such as yourself who will most probably back your stance tooth and nail in a sign of solidarity without second thought. But, it's better than nothing. Kidtonio 03:51, 26 November 2006 (UTC)Kidtonio

[edit] Harsh Actions on User:Bowser Koopa

A user has recently approached you and demanded that the above user be banned. I am here to explain why he was incorrect to do so and how he mislead you. The banned user only vandalised one page(George W. Bush) and got a warning. As a joke, he edited the info to make it seem like he was being thanked for heroics, however it got replaced by a warning(the warnings were given by a user not involved in the situation). Then the user who contacted you, AuburnPilot, posted on Bowser Koopa's talk page(where this was taking place) and claimed that the page did not belong to him. I am not sure whether or not he was trying to assert power over Bowser Koopa with this(alluding that Bowser Koopa's critics can do whatever they want and say whatever they want and he would have to ask them permission in order to delete it). However, when Bowser Koopa posted a joke message in response to this on AuburnPilot's talkpage, it was deleted without permission and it was hastly reported for the sole purpose of banning Bowser Koopa. This is a blatant hypocrisy since everyone could post criticisms towards Bowser Koopa, but nothing could be said back to AuburnPilot. AuburnPilot's actions may or may not be politically driven, as his personality sounds like that of a conservative Republican, which is what Bush, whom Bowser Koopa attacked on his page, is. This might be an example of trying to silence someone with different political views. I think you were too busy to look at the situation and acted how you would normally act after being mislead. I am asking for the block to be lifted and give Bowser Koopa another chance.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Captain Insano shows no mercy (talk • contribs).

No, I will not remove his block. He vandalized the Bush page. Then vandalized the warning he was given. Then did it again. Then gave a warning to the person who gave him the warning. Then did it again. All that adds up to a block. Take this to WP:ANI because you won't get any action from me. Metros232 19:39, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Incidentally, I believe this user is nothing more than a sockpuppet of Bowser Koopa. See this edit. Thanks, -- AuburnPilottalk 20:21, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Asher's greetings

Nope, you're not crazy, but I did have to check the logs twice to make sure I wasn't missing something. God knows what he's doing, but his disruptions are getting seriously out of hand. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 20:10, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, if he comes back to do the same tonight whenever he returns from Wikibooks despite our warnings, we'll have to figure something beyond the asking him to stop. Not sure what that would entail (it's definitely not disruptive enough for a block at this point), but that's a bridge to cross when it comes Metros232 20:12, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

BTW, I can't confirm this in the logs now, but it looked like he sent that greeting 10 minutes after I asked him to stop greeting users, about 20-25 minutes ago. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 20:14, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Logs show the page was created (i.e. he welcome the user) at 19:59. Your comment was at 19:58. You tagged and I deleted pretty much simultaneously (I actually didn't see/notice you tagged it until just now when I looked in the log to look up the time) at 20:08. Metros232 20:18, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Ahh, ok. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, he might not have seen my message before he sent that greeting. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 20:22, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:AIV

Apologies, Metros232, I mistook the 'X' at the front of the username for a non-Latin character. I was too overeager. Thanks for that message, it was my mistake reporting it. --SunStar Net 21:05, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oops...

Sorry 'bout that. I thought that it had been created by a banned user operating via a sockpuppet. Ironically, the sock correctly tagged this as a speedy and I incorrectly attributed the article to him. - Lucky 6.9 01:02, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Not a problem. Some things were just odd about that speedy deletion. There was your banned user thing which I wasn't quite connecting. Then there was the tag for the second time that tagged it as a repost of an AfD'd article. Now I'm beginning to realize that I think the user who posted that is new to Wikipedia and doesn't realize that the repost tag applies to things once deleted in AfD, not things deleted through speedy. Thanks for the explanation, Metros232 01:04, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jr. High School student

I thought I would ask you since you have been helping me. I have a userbox that says, "This user is a Jr. High School student". When I click the link, there is no page. So, I made the page and added my name. But, someone deleted that page. What should I do? Senator Heimermann 05:16, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Stop trying to add yourself to the page. What you're doing is not the way to create a category. The category is deleted and will not be recreated as per a categories for deletion discussion a few months ago. Metros232 05:17, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for letting me know. Also, on my talk page, I have a box where it says click to leave a message. Can you make that box yellow for me or give me the code? Thanks, Senator Heimermann 05:23, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Done. Metros232 05:26, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Thank you so, so, so much! Thanks, Senator Heimermann 05:28, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks.

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my userpage. Quite a persistant vandal/troll, eh? It's too bad we can't prove who it is, because I'm pretty confident that you and I both know who's doing it. --Takeel 15:43, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for responding to Asher

I actually did glance at his page last night before I went to bed; I didn't comment because I didn't have anything to say. You can see how much a fancy user page means to me; my user page is a redirect to my talk page. (I really should do something about that.) I just sent him some suggestions for how he might contribute to the encyclopedia. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 16:43, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oops

Sorry about that one, just normally when I see thing about ponies I think "Nonsense.." I'll try to use Google searches more often. Ard0 17:57, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ulf Sigfusson

As he does not appear to exist, and Amazon and Google have never heard of him or his books, please can you explain how his books assert notability. I think you are saying that patent nonsense will last longer on Wikipedia if notability or a bibliography is claimed, even if it is specious. Is that right? Ringbark 19:59, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

What I'm saying is that Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#General_criteria right there, clearly, in general criteria 1 it says that hoaxes aren't speediable. Metros232 20:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reversion

Hi - thanks for reverting that vandalism to my user-talk page, which seems to have resulted from me delining a WP:RFPP. Again, thanks Martinp23 20:28, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

No problem. It just goes to show you, stop doing things users don't like. Trust me, take a look at my user and talk page histories for the last few days. Awesome stuff. Metros232 20:30, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Argh - that's bad. Luckily I've not had too much vandalism on my user and talk page since I became admin, though I don't doubt it will increase :). Unfortunately, doing things others don't like sort of comes with the job! Thanks, Martinp23 20:33, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Asher again...

First, he creates an article for Mayor Juan Perez. Then he adds a speedy deletion notice to it using an IP. I change it from db to db-bio, and now he's asking me why I want to delete it. I'm really getting quite exasperated with his antics. Gzkn 04:15, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Me too, so I was bold and deleted it. Metros232 04:17, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP Munich

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[edit] Please Cease Editing User Talk for Analyzethis

Metros232, please cease your editing of my user talk and user pages. I want another administrator to handle this since you have done nothing but harass me for the past several weeks. I want to invoke my right to vanish [4] based on personal reasons that are not any business of yours. Please spend your time bothering someone else. I hope that I do not hear from you again. Analyzethis 17:00, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Well if you had said you were using your right to vanish, I would have granted it. Simply tagging your user talk page isn't grounds for deleting it. You have to actually tell people you want to use that right. Many people want their user talks deleted to hide their editing pasts, which is what I assumed yours to be. If you had explained it, I would have deleted it, just as I did to your user page. Metros232 17:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:GNU (disambiguation)

Thanks. enochlau (talk) 23:30, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Talk Page Deletion

So, as per Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Massive_Image_Deletion, an admin deleted ~1500 images without checking their associated talk pages for tags including replaceable fair use disputes. That admin is going back, and undeleting at least some (and perhaps all) of those images so they may be fairly considered. But now, the orphaned talk pages, wherein cases were made for keeping images, are being deleted. (Um, in at least one case, by you. Is there a way to protect these talk pages until the images return for proper deletion consideration? (The fact that that sentence almost makes perfect sense to me is a bit scary...) Thanks, Jenolen 18:20, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I've restored the talk page for that image. The issue with this is that there were 1500 images deleted and we don't know how many talk pages. I didn't know of the situation with the image deletions when I deleted the talk page, so I didn't think there'd be an issue. Since it was tagged as {{db-talk}}, that's why I deleted it. maybe you can just send a note to everyone involved in those image debates not to tag them as such for awhile. Metros232 18:35, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your quick action. I'm not sure this isn't turning into a good, old-fashioned Wikipedia Giant Mess(TM), but hey, we'll see. Jenolen 18:47, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Phillips Academy vandal

Hi, I guess you're an administrator -- how about immediately banning this crazy vandal who has spent the last 24 hours vandalizing the Phillips Academy site? I'm an Exonian myself, but this is *way* too much! Many thanks! Hayford Peirce 18:36, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

It is too much. Especially since I'm from Saint Pauls, not Exeter.--Smurfman93 18:39, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Hehe. Thanks for the immediate block! I wonder if it's as cold today at St. Pauls as it is here in supposedly "sunny Tucson"?! Hayford Peirce 18:40, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

All of the Smurfman accounts have been blocked so far. Metros232 18:41, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Is there any way of blocking him at the IP level? Apparently this idiot is threatening to come back under another account. 23skidoo 19:24, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
It'd have to be done through WP:RFCU basically. I blocked the user with the "Automatically block the last IP address used by this user, and any subsequent addresses they try to edit from" selected. So apparently it didn't work. Metros232 19:28, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I was just playing around with numbers and found a User:Smurfman2 that apparently hasn't done any edits yet. I blocked it indefinitely as well. Maybe the key is to frustrate the guy enough that he gives up. 23skidoo 19:32, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

DON'T DELETE THIS I'M APPOLOGIZING


Let me clarifye some things. One, I'm not in elementary school (I just let my immature side control my decisions [vandalizing The PA page]) Two, I'm using a computer in the world's largest secondary school library, so don't diss it. Three, while this is the last vandalism I'm going to perpetrate, I cannot stop the rest of Exeter Academy from doing so, so if you see vandalism on the Andover page, don't automatically assume it's me. Send this message to the rest of the peolpe "watching" the Andover page, so that they know not to waste any more time. The last Smurf 19:47, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not a test

Um....... That wasn't a test or vandelism. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by HK1978 (talk • contribs).

Yes, it most certainly was vandalism. You have now twice edited my unblock review at User talk:Pointlessweb and you inserted a personal rant into the middle of an encyclopedia article. ALl of these are vandalism. Metros232 18:12, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Helped create Suspected sockpuppets of User: Bowser Koopa

I even added some facts as to how to spot him. If you have anything else that can link him to another account, please add it to the above mentioned page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by The Showster (talk • contribs) 02:53, 3 December 2006 (UTC).

Sorry about that. I was more concerned with trying to bring down a vandal and sockpuppeteer who has been a major problem in recent weeks--The Showster 03:02, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

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