Talk:Metroid Prime (creature)

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Does anyone think we should include a short bit on the cutscene accessable with a certain accomplishment, or would that be venturing a little too far into Spoilerland? --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 22:33, Aug 30, 2004 (UTC)

The advantage of including it would be that it is kinda relevant. And from what I can guess of the videos of MP2:Echoes, what the cutscene reveals will be revealed in MP2, so it will probably be included in that article. However it is quite a large spoiler. Perhaps we could use ROT13 encoding to hide it? ___Ebelular 23:41, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I've thrown something together. If you want to scramble/unscramble using rot13, this site http://tools.geht.net/rot13.html has a JavaScript thing-a-ma-bob. That would result in somehting like:

When the game is finished there is a cutscene. The cutscene shown depends on what percentage of items the player has collected.

--- BEGIN ROT13 ---

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--- END ROT13 ---

That might do the job of including the content and still notgiving the game away. Though I'm not terrible pushed. As I said, it'll probably come up in afew months when MP2 comes out. It's a solution though.

____Ebelular 23:58, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Hmm... is that standard practive for big huge spoilers for the Wikipedia? Maybe we should just wait until MP2 comes out and has been out for a while. If it does tell all, I should think the MP secret would be pretty happily situated where Sheik's secret identity now is thanks to Super Smash Bros. Melee. --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 00:00, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC)

Still if we do end up using that, I think it should be 'one hundred percent,' not the number 100%. Just my opinon. :) Sparky the Seventh Chaos 00:02, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC)

I don't know how wikipedia handles spoliers beside the spolier tag. The only reason I though it might work is because you can hide text without needing any special tags or software or anything. I reckon we should wait. It's only a tiny clip, and not at all relevant to the first MP. ____Ebelular 15:06, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

If you go to the age on poilers at [1], it does mention ROT13 encoding, but "such encryption is unacceptable on a general purpose encyclopedia like Wikipedia." Guess we shouldn't use that then! ____Ebelular 15:11, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I see that the Metroid Prime 2: Echoes article sorta covers that spoiler, so I don't really see the need to include it here. ____Ebelular 20:30, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Contents 1 Merge disputed. 2 Regarding the EU version 2.1 Deleted image 3 Hey... 4 Name Confusion 5 Possible relation to other mutant Metroids 6 MP Origns 7 Merge with Dark Samus

[edit] Merge disputed.

Yup, it sure is. I'm actually kind of neutral about this, though; either way it goes, I wouldn't mind overmuch. My main reason for keeping this separate from the main Metroid Prime article is that the main article deals mostly with the game itself; as an organizational thing, I think the title creatue is better off with its own article, much like we have separate Metroid and Metroid (video game species) articles.

On the other hand, we could do something similar to what the Ecco the Dolphin article does and have a "Metroid Prime the character" section someplace.

In this case, I do favor keeping the articles separated, but I wouldn't be too bothered if the decision ends up being to move this data to the main Prime article. --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 22:16, Nov 9, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding the EU version

I have the EU version, yet remember finding out in the game that they had captured Prime..

[edit] Deleted image

I deleted the image because there was no permission to use it.--Zxcvbnm 22:58, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hey...

Am I the ONLY one that thinks it's weird that in both games Prime is in, he seems to be dead, but is revealed to be alive in the 100% ending? LIII 22:57, 16 February 2006 (UTC)Luigi III

Well, I don't find it weird; It's just too clichè ;-). --ShadowJester07 15:47, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name Confusion

For a long time i have been wondering if Metroid Prime is known as "Metroid Prime", or "The Metroid Prime". Can you guys tell me what it really is? Thanks. (11987 06:02, 29 June 2006 (UTC))

To my knowledge, I can't remember ever seeing her name as "The Metroid Prime." As well, the games are called Metroid Prime 1/2/3, and any data/log book scans in the game say "Metroid Prime." Thus, I think it's safe to say that there is no "the" in her name. - Kalarchis 19:38, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Got it, thanks. (11987 20:22, 29 June 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Possible relation to other mutant Metroids

I was wondering if it was possible that Metroid Prime was the final stage in the lifecycle of Phazon-mutated Metroids. Its core essence seems to be a development of Hunter Metroids. The fact that there is only one of them isn't that hard to overcome, as there was only one Metroid Queen in Metroid 2. Perhaps it has the Metroid Queen's position, but is more active. The mutant Metroids might have a lifecycle of Metroid-Hunter Metroid-Metroid Prime, possibly having Infant Metroid before Metroid. The Fission Metroid might have the same position as normal Metroids, or be a species of its own. The high Phazon relation of Metroid Prime compared to other mutant Metroids could be explained as a Hunter Metroid needing to consume a large content of Phazon energy to develop. What do you think?

Not bad, I also think Metroid Prime is the final stage in metroid/phazon development, but its speculation and shudnt be in the article. (11987 02:50, 9 July 2006 (UTC))

[edit] MP Origns

It's clearly stated in Chozo Lore that MP (along with all phazon) was born in some region of space within Chozo Lore.

• The log "Cradel" states, "...Some creatures survive, but their forms grow as twisted";

• The log "Meteor Strike" states, "We have returned to Tallon IV, borne here against our will by a great cataclysm from the reaches of space. A meteor came, casting a dark shadow of debris over the land with the violence of its impact. Though we perceived this from beyond space and time, it was but a curiosity: a brief flare in the universe. But the meteor brought with it corruption evil as the force that fell from the sky."

Therefore, the is conclusive evidence to state Metroid Prime was born in some region of outer space, far outside of Tallon IV. As for the "meteors can come from planets" comment, Meteors (really meteoroids) are in reality fragments of debris in the Solar System - I highly doubt it could come from a planet, unless the Scientologists have something to do with it.

Speed kills, Children. --ShadowJester07 22:36, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

How are those lores proof? it says nothing bout the Worm. And meteors can come from other meteors hiting a planet; the debris is then a meteor. (11987 22:39, 24 July 2006 (UTC))

Meteors can either come from derbis or a meteor hitting a planet; however, neither is confirmed, so until there is a direct statement as to how said meteor originated, not specifying where it came from seems to be the logical way to go. --Mr. Ifafudafi 23:03, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Exactly; all we need to say is that Prime came in a meteor. By the way, u sighn ure name with brackets and inside type ````. (11987 22:48, 24 July 2006 (UTC))

• The "Worm" haunting word to classify what would be Metroid Prime. Metroid Prime was born from direct exposure, to Phazon, as well as mysterious other agent.

Also, Read the entire “Worm Entry”, it states, “…The words of the seers have come to pass, for there, in the depths of the world, the ravenous Worm lurks and feeds. From the stars it came, blighting Tallon with it's Great Poison.”

As for the “meteors can come from other meteors hitting a planet, the debris is then a meteor”; If A meteor were to hit a planet, it would most likely leave a crater, rather than jettisoning debris into space (Simlar to the Tunguska blast of ‘08. Or most likely it was debris left over from the big-bang - So then essentially, it came from outer space - as in it is not native to Tallon IV... --ShadowJester07 23:00, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

of course its not native. But remember, 'born of parasites (metroids) nurtured in a poisoned womb (the phazon meteor)'. (11987 23:02, 24 July 2006 (UTC))

• It's unclear to what they really mean by Parasites; Although it can and (prob does refer) to Metroids, it still draws questions to why they would use such an antagonizing word on their own creations. Furthermore, It could be suggested that "Metroid Prime" was essentially an entity, that managed to corrupt and posses a Metroid. After all, the various fact that it was able to mutate from a Metroid like creature to Dark Samus spawns even more questions. (Also take note to the fact the Chozo placed Metroids on various worlds) --ShadowJester07 23:20, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Lets just leave it out till Prime 3. (11987 23:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC))

Probably A good idea.

• According to Metroid Prime's offical Website, Metroid Prime's homeworld is SR388. [2] --ShadowJester07 00:26, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

its a fake; i just went there. (11987 00:32, 25 July 2006 (UTC))

How is it fake? It was made by Nintendo. --ShadowJester07 00:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

i went to the site; no Prime. Its a hoax. (11987 01:05, 25 July 2006 (UTC))

• <sarcasm> Yes, because I would take the time to flawlessly photoshop an image just to prove a point to a thirteen year old ;) </sarcasm> . Click on the items for phazon and metroids and drag the icons to the bottom, and then you will create the item for Metroid Prime. Sheesh, people these days, Can't even figure out how to play a simple children's game :-P --ShadowJester07 01:13, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

didnt know u cud do that. I stand corected. But u know ur whole theory bout prime being born in space is wrong. (11987 02:20, 25 July 2006 (UTC))

Yeh, but if you ask me, there are way too many gaps in the whole Metroid Prime series. Nintendo should have released a novel to make the game more interesting, similar to HALO. The whole theory thing is a byproduct from a misinterpretation of Chozo Lore :p --ShadowJester07 02:41, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

A book would be cool. sorry if i was too sceptical earlier. (11987 02:42, 25 July 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Merge with Dark Samus

I think the Dark Samus article should be merged with this, since they are the same being. --Black Omnimon 01:42, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

We've already had this discussion on the Dark Samus Talk page. The Conclusion was to keep the two articles separated. --ShadowJester07 02:02, 27 November 2006 (UTC)