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[edit] Tigray/Tigrinya

Please discuss before making any major changes or moves like that. There's a reason why the article is where it is. There are too many different names that Tigrés/Tigrinyas can be called, and since the article is about people on both side of the border (their differences aren't great enough to warrant separate articles, though it probably warrants a heading on the Tigray people page explaining any differences) the neutral "Tigray people" term has been chosen since there is no widespread English use either.

Yom 23:03, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Eritrea

Why are you getting so angry? It was me who proposed that we take out Amharic, but it seems (from the capitalization in your edit summary), that you're removing it to somehow spite me. Either way, I don't think it should be on the list, but I do think that it should be mentioned that much (most?) of the educated class speaks Amharic as a second language, and perhaps some near Om Hajer and the border with Gonder speak it as a first language. I'll go find a source.
ዮም (Yom) | contribs • Talk 19:26, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Btw, I've recently created an Ethiopian wikiproject, if you'd like to join and help out. Would it be okay if I put a link for it on the Eritrean WikiProject page too, in case anyone there would be interested in helping out? Anyway, I hope to see you contribute! (I'll put a simple signature since the colors irritate you - I'll assume it's just the brightness and not b/c it's the Ethiopian tri-color) — Yom | Talk 04:42, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Asmara

I had uploaded the files but for some reason the images were not working. I will try again, I have uploaded images before and this hasn't happened ?????

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[edit] eritrea

Nationalities is problem in English, and in the era of the nation-state. Can you use "groups"? Do you explain it all later in the text?

If "groups" is no good, at the very least, put "nationalities" in quotes; but I'm nor sure they'll like that.

Tony 02:09, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Eritrea

Thank you for the link and help, but I really don't see myself making any long, focused, or coordinated articles on Wikipedia. I just flip through the site from time to time trying to change things that I don't think are correct, mostly with things that concern Eritrea. Thanks. Mesfin 09:40, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Featured Article

Sorry. I was reading the articles too fast during the process of nominations. I will do a better job next time. But in your article, I didn't like how the whole article was organized and the orders of sections. Individual articles were very good though. --GoOdCoNtEnT 21:38, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why did you take out the intro?

Merhawie, why did you take out the intro. It was so good. Im putting it back. The one before it (that you replaced right now) is too vague and makes the country look boring. Look at the Ethiopian article. Look at other countries articles? Cluckbang 15:59, 14 August 2006 (UTC)Cluckbang

I reverted it for two reasons:
  1. It seems to be more about Eritrea's relationship with Ethiopia (instead for instance with Aksum),
  2. It is far too in depth about the historical aspect, the historical context is too specific.
Basically it seems to me that it belongs in the historical section and not the lead section. I draw this conclusion from the recommendations of Wikipedia, specifically about the lead section and I would also recommend you read through the section for an actual Featured Article (the one that I have been following are People's Republic of China and Libya). If you agree, or do not respond by the end of the day, I will revert your change to the lead section. Merhawie 18:10, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Libya and china? Those are just 2 countries! In most articles, there is a little history info on the intro. Even if you look at the Ethiopia article. Besides what I added to the intro made the country more interesting to the reader and will cause them to want to know more about such an interesting country. I am reverting

Cluckbang 15:32, 16 August 2006 (UTC)Cluckbang

Eritrea Article Hello there Tony, you have give suggestions on how Eritrea can become a featured article. However, before you edited it, someone took out a part of the introduction that i put in, and so I wanted to know whether this part that I added to it was okay or unnesessary? thx


"The area which is now called Eritrea played an important role within the framework of the wider region which we now know as Ethiopia. The coastal area represented the external door and the window of much of the Ethiopian region. The area lay off the Red Sea coast, one of the major trade routes of ancient times. The coastal area was later likewise visited, shortly before the Christian era, by Ptolemaic naval expeditions, which came in quest of elephants, aptly termed the tanks of the ancient world. The coastal area, throughout its long history, was in fact closely involvedInsert non-formatted text here in the foreign trade of the hinterland. Much of the latter’s commerce passed through the Red Sea coast: exports consisted largely of gold, ivory, civet musk and slaves, and the imports of textiles and other manufactured goods. [1]"

The area now called Eritrea has played an important role in the the region we now know as Ethiopia. As an enclave on the coast of the Red Sea coast, a major trade route since ancient times, Eritrea has long been a strategic location for much of the region, a hub for exports of gold, ivory, civet musk and slaves, and imports of textiles and other manufactured goods. The coastal area was visited shortly before the Christian era by Ptolemaic naval expeditions, which came in quest of elephants, known as "the tanks of the ancient world" [reference required, or remove the phras; does this sentence belong in the lead? (Too specific?)].

Try that. You need to collaborate with others who can copy-edit. Tony 12:13, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

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I have recieved permission from one of the 'main article' choosers. This gives me the permission to change it to this suggestion that he has given to me Merhawie Cluckbang 14:57, 22 August 2006 (UTC)Cluckbang

[edit] WP Eritrea

Hi Merhawie

Thanks for your message. Alas, I am afraid I know rather little about Eritrea. However, I am one of those involved in maintaining a bit of order in the African material (categorising and stubbing) so I'll check through the Eritrean material from time to time. It is not so long ago that WP:WSS created the {{Eritrea-stub}} template and I can see you have already created an {{Eritrea-bio-stub}} template. I've taken the liberty of cleaning up the code a bit, but unfortunately the Eritrean material has too few stub articles to live up to our standard guideline of 60 stub articles for a new stub category, so the -bio category is a bit thin. I think WP:WSS will watch and see what happens, but if the -bio category doesn't show signs of "growth" we will normally suggest keeping the template but make both {{Eritrea-bio-stub}} and {{Eritrea-stub}} use the same category (Cat:Eritrea stubs) until we have more material. You are more than welcome to comment here: [1]. For the time being, I think WP:WSS will wait and see.

Best of luck with WP:ERI. Eritrea looks like an interesting country. Cheers. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 07:53, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] National Confederation of Eritrean Workers

Hi Merhawie. I replaced the Category:Trade unions of Eritrea on this article. It is part of the larger Category:Trade unions by country category system, and should be left on the article. This is, unfortunately, the only trade union entry we have for Eritrea. Do you know of any other trade unions in the country? Would you be willing to add them to Wikipedia? Leave me a message if I can be of any help. Cheers.--Bookandcoffee 21:26, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Enkutatash

Hello, I thought perhaps you might be able to answer my questions at Talk:Enkutatash. Thanks in advance, -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:43, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

and የቐንየለይ! — MikeG (talk) 03:12, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Athletes/Sportspeople

In Wikipedia, Category:Athletes is for participants in the sport athletics (track and field). Category:Sportspeople is for participants of any sport. Please don't mingle the two. And since we have Category:Eritrean athletes, we don't really need a category called Eritrean runners. I do however note your point about non-reverse name order. But please don't blank the category sort key. Instead, have the sort key point to the first name like I did with Mebrahtom Keflezighi [2]. Note that this only applies to categories pertaining to Eritrea. Punkmorten 09:37, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Because: When no sort key is written, some editors presume that it is lacking and will therefore insert one. To avoid inserting of the wrong sort key (Keflezighie, Mebrahtom) by someone else, it's better to have the correct sort key there at once. And it's quick and easy, like edit summaries. Punkmorten 06:57, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] National Confederation of Eritrean Workers

Why did you add the word "centre" to the first sentence? I do not think it fits, thank you. --Merhawie 20:10, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi Merhawie. Thanks for your note. I added the word because the NCEW is a national trade union center, not just a single trade union. Here's a description from ICTUR.

"The NCEW is now reported to be independent of the government and the PFDL. It comprises some 250 unions and five federations, the largest being the Textile, Leather and Shoe Federation."

Cheers. --Bookandcoffee 20:39, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Maraba Coffee

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[edit] Adi/Addi

I think we should standardize the "Adi/Addi" villages as "Addi" for Tigrinya names and "Ad" for Tigre names. The reason why the Tigrinya form has the "-i" at the end is solely because the "d" is geminated (i.e. doubled in length), so that's the best approximation. Is Adi Teklezan mainly Tigre or Tigrinya? I think the Encyclopaedia Aethiopica has the article at Ad Teklezan, but I've seen evidence showing it's mainly Tigrinya-speaking. Either way, a standard "Addi" is probably the best way to go. — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 14:30, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I have chosen to use the standard in Eritrean Government documents. For instance, Adi Tekelezan is from a Ministry of Public Works document. Specifically for that town though, if you look on the brief history I wrote on it, the town was originally settled by the Tigre but a significant population of Tigrinya immigrated there. As for who is the predominant? Well Eritrean population statistics never report ethnicity (at least none of the documents I have been privy to). Information I have about the town says that most people are bilingual. --Merhawie 16:14, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Greetings from New Zealand

Hallo, Merhawie. Thank you for concern about my address. I don't see it as a problem in this country, though maybe you can explain your concern in more detail. Interesting that you confuse crims by having your user page suggesting (because of category names that probably should say "from" instead of "in") that you are in two states at once; and your "name" looks to me (with IE6) just like the four-rectangle postcode blanks that many envelope-makers add for the Australian and New Zealand market (where we manage with just 4 digits, not the 5 in your zipcodes).

With your interest in north-east Africa, maybe you could create the article about the tribe named "Taita" - I found (because that's a New Zealand placename) that the original article was a redirect to a type of bread, so I converted it to a disambig; but when I looked at what linked to it I found a third meaning - more important than the other two, maybe - mentioned on several pages.

Kind regards, Robin Patterson 21:34, 16 October 2006 (UTC) in Wellington

 :) The four rectangles that you are probably seeing are probably because you dont have the Ge'ez alphabet font, which you can find at here. I will try to do some work on that page (the Taita tribe in Kenya), but to be honest my knowledge about the areas around Eritrea drop off exponentially. Taita by the way is what injera is called in Eritrea (both names are actually used interchangeably). --Merhawie 21:55, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
I just came here to see if you were continuing your discussion with BanyanTree but noticed this. Just wanted to mention that you might also want to consider Code 2000. While it is shareware, not free, it is only US$5 and is a quite useful font to have. I can see many scripts thanks to this font. Of course, it probably isn't perfect and a dedicated font would be better if it's a language your particularly interested in or can actually read or you want to show someone who can actually read the language. But for general use and just to actually see what's out there, IMHO it's enough. There are attempts to construct free unicode fonts but AFAIK none of them are as good as Code 2000 yet. Nil Einne 13:28, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anon Block

Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reasons:

Autoblock of 70.225.170.6 lifted.

Request handled by:  Netsnipe  ►  01:02, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

<<unblock|I have been blocked for no reason! i have never been malicious in my edits, I follow the rules to the best of my ability. And of course I am signed in under my account Merhawie!!!!>>

I suggest you read up on IP address#Dynamic and Tor (anonymity network)#Etiquette and abuse before you panic like that again in future. --  Netsnipe  ►  01:02, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Beraki Ghebreselassie

_ _ Hey, welcome (belatedly), it's great that we have a subject expert on Eritrea contributing. Myself, i'm only abt one step beyond confusing Er. w/ Eth.: i've known for i-can't-remember-how-long that the Italian conquest of Eth. was launched from the more, uh, conventional colony of Er.; i also scored points at a nominally Eth'n restaurant by asking questions and discovering that the Er'n i recalled meeting (before independence) was a relative of the owner. Not bad, i guess -- tho only bcz Yanks are supposed to be even more ignorant than i am.
_ _ As to B.G., i hope you realize (but couldn't be sure from what you said) that

  1. The crucial issue for piping Cats is alphabetization (bcz the piping never appears except in the edit pane), independent of how the name would and wouldn't be handled between Eritreans.
  2. A bio article is probably incomplete (his sounds like an example) unless either
    1. the subject conforms to the West European-style format of given name(s) followed by surname(s), or
    2. the subject comes from a place where a CJK-like language is widely spoken, or
    3. the bio explains what is going on instead, IMO preferably in the lead sentence if it can be done in less than about 6 words, and, if needed, soon thereafter (probably in the next 'graph after the lead 'graph) in more detail.
  3. Neither the piping of Cats nor entries on LoPbN and other lists of names has room to explain anything (except, depending on the nature of the list, in the form of normally putting something at least vaguely surname-like first, to clarify alphabetization), and thus relies on linking to the bio for providing the details about the format of the name.
  4. Thus for Cat piping & lists that are organized predominantly alpha-by-surname, the relevant question is
    What would this person say (assuming they're familiar enough with the cultures of English-language societies, and would rather get the job done quickly than lose time enlightening the clerk) when asked about their name at the Western consulate or the Western air line? I.e., when the clerk says "I need to fill in this surname blank; how much of your name identifies your family, as opposed to distinguishing you from others in your family?"
    Icelanders and pre-revolutionary Russians have a quasi-surname that differs from that of their spouse or siblings of the opposite sex, but amounts to a surname for discussing them in English. If you're from Tamil Nadu, IIRC, you have only a given name, and clarify by mentioning your father's given name (and for all i know your paternal grandfather's, when aambiguity persists), but if you come to the US, you'll probably say your father's given name when asked for a surname. Those are examples of what we're looking for, in Cat piping and before the comma on LoPbN.

But despite at least a (very welcome!) heads-up from you, i still don't know enuf about Eritrean naming to be sure whether to put "Beraki Ghebreselassie" or "Ghebreselassie, Beraki", and i'm anticipating this possibility: that the rdr "Beraki G/sellasie" exists because his father is named Selassie or Sellassie, and "Ghebre-" functions much as "-dóttir and -sson do. I say that out of ignorance, but see a need to rule it out if we are to leave B.G. as you did.
_ _ BTW, good for you when you put the uninverted name in as piping, instead of just reverting back to no piping: doing so communicates that you intentionally left it uninverted, rather than simply not realizing that piping to something else must be done on bios, or explicitly ruled out.
_ _ Thanks, and please accept my regrets for the length of this message.
--Jerzy•t 21:08, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

The "G/" is because "Gebre" is a common element in Ethiopian and Eritrean names, much like "Haile" (which can be abbreviated sometimes as "H/." "Gebre" means "servant of" (Like Abdul/ Abd al-...), while "Haile" means "power of." Both are common elements in religious names (cp. Gebre Selassie, Haile Selassie, "Servant of the Trinity," "Power of the Trinity," respeectively). Ethiopian and Eritrean names are patronymic like Tamil names. You are only given a first name and give your father's name to clarify and father's father's name if more clarification is needed. — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 20:14, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Meb Keflezghi

Hey Merhawie, thanks for your help regarding naming conventions. Could you verify the translation I put for his name? I don't speak much Tigrinya. — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 20:11, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

That seems fine. --Merhawie 05:39, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Eritrean elections template

The template is one of a standardised set (for the complete list, see here). The templates include all votes at national level, i.e. presidential, Senate and parliament elections together with referenda. As far as I can work out, Eritrea has never held national elections, and the independence referenda is the only vote ever held at national level. Local/regional elections should have their own template (a later project!). Hope this answers your question! Number 57 09:26, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] whose POV?

You mean a POV other than wikipedia. The source of the story was not crosswalk.com but the news agency that provided the story. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Troymangum (talk • contribs) 21:08, 24 January 2007 (UTC).

You are right about that. But I do not think that BosNewsLife qualifies as a "news agency" (though I must admit I am not sure). I do however, believe that do to the gravity of the accusation that confirmation from a news agency with less POV than BosNewsLife which obviously has a particular position. Either that or a discussion about the responses to such past allegations. Furthermore it would likely be more suitable for inclusion in the Christianity in Eritrea page. After all the purpose of Wikipedia is to provide an encyclopedia that is as NPOV as possible. --Merhawie 21:50, 24 January 2007 (UTC) Edit: Merhawie 21:57, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Battle of Karan

Sorry, but I only know some basic information about the conflict between the British and Italians in Ethiopia. I know some info, but not enough to write an article. :( Captain panda Mussolini ha sempre tarche Quis ut Dues 21:50, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Eritrean War of Independence

If you want to add a footnote or whatever you are welcome to do it; I just wanted to point out the exact text on my copy of the ballot.

http://aceproject.org/ero-en/regions/africa/ER/Eritrea%20-%20ballot%20paper%20%28referendum%29.jpg/image_view_fullscreen http://aceproject.org/ero-en/regions/africa/ER/Eritrea%20-%20ballot%20paper.jpg/image_view_fullscreen

Mesfin 19:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tikkun (magazine)

Thank you for reviewing Tikkun (magazine). Malik Shabazz 00:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lyrics on Ertra, Ertra, Ertra

Hello Merhawie. I've removed the lyrics you added to Ertra, Ertra, Ertra because these are available on Wikisource, a sister project run by the Wikimedia Foundation. The link is in the list of external links. —{admin} Pathoschild 06:14:14, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I actually do not understand why you have removed them. I have done nothing more than what has been done for the French National Anthem. Could you please clarify? Thank you. --Merhawie 07:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Gibi.jpg

Regarding this image, see the link in the template to Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images, specifically tohere. There is no mention on the source site that the images are released under the GFDL or CC license. Garion96 (talk) 22:01, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually I personally contacted the owner of the website and he has agreed to release them under the CC in the way that I presented on the the image. How will I make sure that every admin is aware of this? --Merhawie 22:26, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Send a copy of that e-mail to permissions-en(at)wikimedia(dot)org. That way a tag will be placed on the image talk page confirming the release. See Talk:American Association for Laboratory Animal Science for an example of that. Garion96 (talk) 22:33, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
So you are saying I would have to do that on every page where one of his pictures appear?--Merhawie 22:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
No, the permission received tag will only be placed on the image page or image talk page, by the person answering the permissions-en e-mail. See for an image example Image:Buffy The Vampire Slayer cast2.jpg, an image I uploaded and where I e-mailed the e-mail exchange to the permissions-en e-mail. There is a place where the ticket number of the OTRS (the permissions-en email) is mentioned. Garion96 (talk) 22:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
do you have any recommendations for my situation where I have uploaded MANY pictures from this persons website (he gave me blanket permission). --Merhawie 23:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Make a list of those images, and send that list together with the e-mail exchange you had to the permissions OTSR. Or have the owner of the website make a statement on his website that he releases his material under the CC. Garion96 (talk) 08:13, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
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