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[edit] Welcome to the Wikipedia

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Sam Spade 12:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] سلام

  1. Please put at least a little something on your profile page, because until you do, there is a big ugly redline next to your contributions.
  2. Check out the Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Iran
  3. Think about adding yourself to Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Iran if you are in Iran or speak Persian. You can also add the appropriate tag from Babel:Persian to your profile to show that you can speak Persian.

--Jpbrenna 23:47, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Your RfA

I regret to say that I have closed your RfA early as per WP:SNOW. I have included a summary of the opinions cast in my reason for doing so, which was essentially 'get some more experience before trying again'. You have been very brave in putting yourself in the spotlight here after so short a time of editing WP. Most people wait between six-to-twelve months before trying for an RfA and they are not alway successful either. Strategies for improving your profile for another RfA include:

  1. contributing effectively to articles. This includes finding references and citations for facts in reliable sources, something that is essential for an encyclopedia.
  2. Working on the Good Article Drive, Good Article Collaboration of the week and the Article Creation and Improvement Drive.
  3. Patrolling the New pages and Recent changes special pages for vandalism; tagging the pages according to the criteria for speedy deletion and warning the vandals.
  4. Reporting repeat vandals for admin intervention.
  5. Joining a Wikiproject or finding a portal on a subject in which you are interested and contributing through that.
  6. Assisting at the Help and Reference desks.
  7. Welcoming new users.
  8. Becoming adopted or, when you are more experienced, adopting new users to assist them in learning about Wikipedia.

These are just some of the ideas for making effective contributions to the project. You can also see Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia for more ideas. Regards and good editing, (aeropagitica) 23:37, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RFA Standing

Thank you for the feedback and the guidelines.

Some of the suggestions you provided have been already fulfilled, and I will steadily strive to intensify my partnership in the coming months.

Regards. Mehrshad123 01:27, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Note

<<<Removed unnecessary RV from user "Swatjester" related to Tevanian article, my response follows>>>

Thanks for the lengthy comment, however my page had been attacked without explanation and I had to do a lengthy investigation to find out that two people, including yourself, were retaliating because a legitimate edit I had made to the Tevanian article. A more appropriate place for a discussion would have been on the Tevanian page, and the false accusations were totally uncalled for, especially considering that the reason for the retaliation was not initially clear. Also you mentioned that the Tevanian article and my RV cleanup was the reason my RFA had failed. You are mistaken. The RFA failed due to other reasons regarding minimum contribution requirements to Wikipedia which I currently do not meet. The quality of my contributions, and my response to RV has been exempulary and you are free to research that here. Mehrshad123 20:24, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Er, did you just call me a sockpuppet on my talkpage, or did I read that wrong? And I'm not sure what it is you are referring to by RV...RV is an abbreviation for "revert". ⇒ SWATJester On Belay! 00:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Um, did you just call me a sockpuppet on Swatjester's talk page, or did I read that wrong? Bete Noir 09:57, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sparta

Hello Mehrshad, Would you please take a look at Sparta. The current introduction says Sparta was a superpower that "overpowered" both Athens and Persia. I think this is wrong because the link says that a superpower is able to "project power on a worldwide scale;", which I think does not apply to Sparta. I have tried moving the text to farther down the article by users Miskin and Domitius insist on keeping it in the introduction. Regards, NN 19:38, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

You are correct that Sparta was a greek City State, not a superpower - either militarily or geographically. I will take a look at the article for you...Mehrshad123 23:44, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Mehrshad, Thanks for your work with Sparta. The current introduction certainly is not balanced. Classical times stretched over a thousand years, and Sparta was strong militarily for only a small part of this. Also note you have already made 3 reverts, so as per Wiki policy you cannot do any more for the next 24 hours. Regards, NN 00:22, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

He sure "took a look alright". Speaking of 3 reverts already, your "look" is by default equivalent to rv-warring. Miskin 00:37, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi you are missing the point - and I am already aware of the 3 revert rule and you must have seen it written above so what was the point of this?Mehrshad123 00:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Mehrshad123, take it from me. Revert warriors rarely become admins and those with a record of 3RR violations extremely rarely become admins. I was just trying to ensure that you knew about it - if you already knew and my notification was redundant there's no need to get upset.--Domitius 00:59, 10 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Block of Editor

Please take a look at this: [1] NN 18:59, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the update. I have filed a protest and a request for a change to the protected page... Mehrshad123 05:13, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Read your message on my talk page. Thanks for your efforts. NN 05:41, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

The matter has been resolved with an apology from Yannismarou. Thanks for your time. Please try to be polite and stay within Wiki policy. That is the best way to make sure your voice is heard, as I think my case demonstrates. NN 14:51, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I am glad to hear it was settled favorably according to policy. Thanks for the tip! Mehrshad123 20:18, 12 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Reza Shah Page

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did to Reza Shah, you will be blocked from editing. Faranbazu 00:18, 13 March 2007 (UTC) (last warning)

According to the discussions page, the consensus from the editors is that you are the vandal. I was simply restoring the page after you repeatedly vandalized it with political POV. Regarding "blocking" me - please be my guest! :) Mehrshad123 00:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Faranbazu, congratulations on getting yourself and your sockpuppets banned for personal attacks and sockpuppetry. Mehrshad123 20:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Email

Doroud, Mehrshad. Could you please enable receiving email from other users in your preferences? I would like to contact you. Shervink 08:51, 15 March 2007 (UTC)Shervink

Thanks for pointing that out Shervin. It should be fixed now. Please let me know if you still cannot get through. Mehrshad123 18:15, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Hi Mehrshad, I hope you and Shervin continue to contribute in wikipedia. However it is important that both of you try to rely on facts. I know that in the Middle East people are found of conspiracy theories. But in an incyclopedia one needs facts. In fact, if you guys want to be monarchist, its your choice. However, trying to make guys like Reza khan, Hitler, or Stalin look good is absurd and futile. Cheers Faranbazu 04:17, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Faranbazu, thanks for the stupid and inflamatory comment. And if I was a "Middle East Person", I might know what you are talking about. On another note, you have commited yet another violation of wikipedia policy in removing the Sockpuppet tag from your user page. [2]

[edit] Note

There is no need to place the sockpuppetry removal warning on both Faranbazu's talk page and the article talk page. Just keep it on Farahbazu's page, thanks. The Behnam 06:32, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 300 edit

I won't reinstate them until there is a good reason to. The petition is already mentioned enough. To talk about it more is giving it undue weight, and to use the site as a source is not reliable. The changes you made did not improve the article. Anyway, I started a section on the talk page to discuss your edit, so reply there if you still object. See Talk:300 (film)#Online petition. The Behnam 07:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Where did you get the idea that an online petition is "official". I suggest that you not reinstate your edit again, and don't give me orders. Thanks. The Behnam 18:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
We already have reliable sources mentioning the petitions so I don't know why you insist upon adding the claims linked & derived from a petition's webpage. It is simply not necessary, in addition to not being in accord with WP source requirements.
No, we really aren't seeing fact-checking and reliability with that website. Please read WP:RS. Besides, some of what you were adding seemed to be your own conclusion based upon the Greek names in the petition, and hence violated WP:NOR. In any case, the reliability issue is the main thing here, so I again recommend you don't add that back into the article. Cheers. The Behnam 18:54, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
There is no reason to get upset. PetitionsOnline.com is a widely used resource for collecting electronic signatures which have been legislated as a valid as a paper and ink. Mehrshad123 18:49, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't see why you accuse me of being upset; I am just explaining policy to you. Also, why did you copy this response from my talk page over here too? Anyway, if you aren't going to add anything more to your defense of the inclusion I think we are done on this matter. The Behnam 18:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Please read the MSN Associated Press article which was provided as the second of two sources - or is that an "unreliable" as well? When someone tells me not to give them orders and then starts giving me orders (look above) then obviously they are upset. Mehrshad123 19:03, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
I gave you suggestions, not orders. Anyway, I view your new edition as simply an expansion of the former version so I don't really have a problem with it. Perhaps other users will consider it unnecessary to expand that in the lead, but I will let them argue that. I did remove an informal wording ("ever-increasing amount"). I believe we are settled on this matter. Have a good one. The Behnam 19:05, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, I did order you not to give me orders, but that's about it. The Behnam 19:06, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

The reason why petitions (online or otherwise) are not very reliable is that there is a lot of potential fraud with their use and subsequent citation. I am sure I could go to 100 very opinionated guys who are good with computers and tell them to create a petition against the sun being too bright, and they could quite easily generate a petition thousands of names long, from different IP addresses with different names. If you think that's far-fetched, something very much like that happens a great deal specifically in political campaigns. The petition might be genuine, but because of the potential for fraud, they are not reliable, as per WP:RS. I hope that explains things. Arcayne 19:18, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

A similar analogy can be made about traditional "paper and ink" petitions. I don't think there is much of a motive here for people to submit many signatures since it has no material benefit besides making a statement of protest. It was a judgement call on my part to consider it as very convincing evidence that thousands do not approve of certain aspects of 300's content. (And yes I signed it too, as well as many Greeks) Mehrshad123 21:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPA

With regards to your comments on Talk:Reza Shah: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Specifically this edit [3], where you called another user a "troll." The Behnam 23:37, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Was this meant to go on the page of the troll that was attacking all the editors including me? Mehrshad123 00:12, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR

Please do not threaten User:TheBenham with a 3RR complaint. His edits are called good-faith edits, and do not meet the criteria for 3RR, which is usually used to term those edits which are solely designed to create an edit war.Arcayne 01:59, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Also wanted to apologize for putting this comment on your User Page instead of here. Oops. Arcayne 02:25, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi please could you please refer me to this "threat"? Mehrshad123 10:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New References for Reza Shah 's alleged relations with Nazis

  • Dear Mehrshad, I have added two new references Keddie and Sullivan. Would it be agreeable to you? I have alot more, but it is time cosuming to type everything. You asked me if I am turk, I wonder what gave you this idea. I am of Persian stock. Would you please let me know what is the evidence on me being sock puppets? The tag you put in my user page says that if you have not created the evidence page linked to my user page I can remove the tag.

I am not bothered by that tag. It can stay as long as you desire. However, I don't like it when you remove my edits, which are well supported by citations. If you need more citations please feel free to demand, and I will provide you. After all, this is my field. I also appreciate if you can support your arguments with valid citations. Cheers Faranbazu 05:58, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Please stop the nonesense. You are working against many editors of many backgrounds and ethnicities. Mehrshad123 10:29, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Would you please be kind enough to let me know what do you mean? All I ask you is to provide support for your argument. This is the way disputes are resolved.Faranbazu 18:39, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
What? What do you call the sources and arguments presented on the Reza Shah Discussion page over the last week by myself and the other editors? Mehrshad123 21:30, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Have you given any reference by a credible source that Reza Shah was not a Nazi sympatizer?

Faranbazu 02:21, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

That's not what the discussion was about. You are changing the subject, or you are saying that we should write lies about him because he is a "nazi sympathizer" in your words. Mehrshad123 02:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
  • But there are hundreds of references in English, French, and even German that verify he was so. What reason do you have that he was not.
  • if you are refering to "Master Race" discussion again there are numerous documents that prove Reza Shah Believed that Aryans are a superior race. Faranbazu 03:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 300

Hullo, a quick note to explain why I've removed this passage (I've explained it on talk, but it's been archived and perhaps not so easy to find):

Since its release, ''300'' has stirred up controversy with accusers labelling it as part of a series of Hollywood films with political overtones aimed predominantly at [[Iranian peoples|Iranian]] and other Asian cultures.<ref name="Iranians outraged over hit movie ‘300’"> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17599641/?GT1=9145]</ref>

Unless I'm missing something, the AP story cited says nothing about "a series of Hollywood films" (it only mentions 300), nor about "other Asian cultures." So really we're left with "stirred up controversy"; which is reflected in the last line of the lead as it currently stands. Best, --Javits2000 22:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks to All

I would like to thank everyone in helping successfully expose the troll User:Faranbazu /User:Artaxerex and his "meatpupets" and "sockpuppets": [4]

Confirmed and suspected sockpuppets and meatpuppets of User:Artaxerex

User:Yima

User:Faranbazu

User:Napht

User:Melca

User:Arteban1

User:140.80.199.91


We have yet to successfully enforce rules regarding personal attacks from the above trolls but the most important part of the work has been done. Again, thank you very much for donating so much of your time for the sake of Truth and Fact.

Now let's get the Reza Shah page unlocked so we can begin the long process of undoing all the vandalism over the last few months!

Mehrshad123 19:54, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Reza Shah article can now be Unlocked for Vandalism Correction

I have unprotected the article because it has been 17 days since it was fully protected. Please note that the article was protected due to an Edit war, and protection is not an endorsement of the protected version (see m:The Wrong Version). -Royalguard11(Talk·Review Me!) 21:11, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Great thanks. Mehrshad123 21:51, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
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