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Contents 1 Advert 2 William Joyce 3 TMBG Soundtrack 4 Doris's revenge? 5 Lewis or Louis? 6 John Lasseter 7 Over-zealous deletion? 8 References 9 Poor Taste 10 Possible spoiler in article 11 Plot 12 Characters 13 Bias 14 Mealy-Mouthed Statements 15 Paradox 16 Trivia Section

[edit] Advert

Sorry to hog the top post, but if The Number 23 page is an advertisement, then this definitely is. Half of the article is about tie-ins like the soundtrack and video games. Which isn't to say that they can't be relevant, but this just feels like an ad. I won't flag it yet, because I don't want to see it deleted, but it'll take some work. Akbeancounter 21:42, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I do not agree. I looked at The Number 23 and it doesn't look like an ad.

[edit] William Joyce

William Joyce, the author of 'A Day with Wilbur Robinson' is NOT the same William Joyce ("fascist politician and Nazi propaganda broadcaster")linked in the article.

[edit] TMBG Soundtrack

They Might Be Giants has said they're contributing a track.

"We just did this amazingly huge remake of a song from the 1964 World Fair called "Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow" that is going to be in an animated feature based on the book "A Day for Wilbur Robinson." It's totally orchestral with a soprano singing this Theremin-like line behind my vocal. It's really a nutty piece of arrangement." --John Flansburgh

Here's a link to that quote: [1]

[edit] Doris's revenge?

What did Lewis do to Doris that makes her want to extract her revenge on him?

Wait for the movie and see. :P Little Leota 22:53, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lewis or Louis?

Which is it?! >_> Little Leota 22:53, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

It's Lewis.

I thought his name was Lucas. Misteroonova 21:16, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] John Lasseter

Is John Lasseter contributing to this film? --211.26.63.66 02:00, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Over-zealous deletion?

The masive release of this film in digital 3D is historically pivotal. Making this a footnote to the film is as not unlike failing to mention in a 1938 article that "Snow White" was being widely released in Technicolor. There was no comment even to justify the massive edit. The approach might overlook that "The Jazz Singer" , 1927 would be in sound.3dnatureguy 21:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

What about "The Nightmare Before Christmas?" It was all ready released in 3D by Disney last October, every new 3D movie is not something that is historically pivotal.

[edit] References

Could the singing frogs be a reference to the singing frog from that old Looney Tunes cartoon? The one that sung "Hello my honey, hello my baby, hello my ragtime gal" except when the owner tried to get other people to notice?--Viridis 03:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

One Froggy Evening, I have fond memories of this cartoon as a child and it came to me instantly when I saw the trailer.--Viridis 04:03, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Decided to add it myself.--Viridis^{talk|contributions} 19:08, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

That's Michigan J. Frog you're thinking about. Frankie is voiced by André 3000. Misteroonova 21:17, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Poor Taste

Have there been any critical comments from Canadian citizens about the lines:

• Wilbur: Lewis is an exchange student.
• Mrs. Robinson: Oh really? Where are you from Lewis?
• Lewis: I'm from Canada
• Mrs. Robinson: Don't you mean North Montana? They stopped calling it Canada ages ago.

That joke seemed to me to be in extremely poor taste, although I understand that nobody can predict the future. Crisco 1492 10:33, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I believe that Americans tend to take offense to these types of jokes more than other nationalities do. For example my mother laughed at that joke and she is Canadian. Another point to be made is that other nation make fun of America in their media. An example of this is when i whent to England my family and I went to see the musical verison of "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang". In a scene in which the two Vulgarian characters, who are supposed to be stealing the car, are debating over being vular they have a dialog somthing like: Vulaganian 1-"Why can we speak English and be vular?" Vulgarian 2- "Because that would be American." The fact of the matter is that nations make fun of one another. It isn't nice but they do. I any person has a problem with theses sort of jokes in entertainment they can either 1)Not view that sort of entertainment 2)Go into the entertaiment bussiness and pervent thoses sort of joke from being put in scripts 3)Convince the government to create a law forbiding these types of jokes. In my own oppinion I believe the "North Montana" joke stems from the fact that Canada has taken better care of its resources and America is jealous. ;p

Jokes about changing political areas are quite common. Lots of media set in the future makes references to countries or states no longer existing. It's part of a larger theme of things being so different in that time period. It's rarely taken offensively.--Viridis^{talk|contributions} 07:18, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Rarely does not mean never. Should a Canadian movie which is also released in the US suggest that Michigan, Alaska, and all of the remainder of the Northern United States be amalgamated into Canada, people would cry "National Chauvinism" or something along those lines. The shoe can pinch when worn on the other foot. Crisco 1492 0:33, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Who cares,Canada sucks, this is a US movie, stop whining and just don't watch it then.

To whoever has posted the "Canada sucks" comment, I regret to inform you that anyone who is imbecilic enough to use the word "sucks" in any sort of forum has no credability. I wish to offer my sincerest condolences on the loss of any scrap of credability you had before posting such a distastful excusse for an adjective.

Well oh anonymous American editor, it's interesting how clear statements of fact can receive heated arguments about their truth or not. Should we try and create an experiment about it? As for the movie, I didn't say it was a bad movie. I just said that I felt that line was in bad taste because Meet the Robinsons was targeted for a younger audience. Would you want your children watching Chris Rock's Bigger and Blacker when you knew that they may take that kind of humour as acceptable for everyone? No. Children are a lot more impressionable than adults, and as such may think that an insult on a nation's sovereignity is completely acceptable, such as your enlightened statement above. "Canada sucks." Interesting. Viridius' statement was a perfect response to my comment, non-inflammatory and factual, as well as persuasive. My response to it may not have been in the best of taste either, but there is a problem I have been noticing while in Indonesia. I watched a news broadcast about a Raptors vs. Bulls game a couple of months ago, and the location at the bottom was "Toronto, AS" (Toronto, Amerika Serikat, or United States of America). It is not very proffesional to get heated up about it, but one thing which we should be teaching our children is respect for our difference. Thus my apology for my inflammatory comment and explanation for my position. Sorry Viridius, but I just feel in the context of the movie and considering who the target audience is, it was not in the best of taste, thus my comments. Crisco 1492 1:21, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible spoiler in article

The line "uncover the amazing secret of Lewis' future family" borders on a spoiler. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.93.160.190 (talk) 14:15, 31 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Plot

The section really needs to be broken into paragraphs.--Viridis^{talk|contributions} 07:18, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, SimplyAwesomeAJ--Viridis^{talk|contributions} 03:52, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Someone needs to edit the word loosing to losing. "He tells Lewis of his terrible childhood after loosing a crucial baseball" I would but this page isnt editable 208.137.139.5 21:07, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Characters

I was going to add a section in about them, but I don't know many of the characters names (e.g. the guy with the puppet!). If anyone could help, I'd appreciate that! --SunStar Net ^talk 18:19, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

The dinosaur's name is Tiny the T-Rex, and he is voiced by Kelly Ripa, Bianca Burke and Joe Mateo. Uncle Art is a ringmaster. The bowler hat's name is Doris. Misteroonova 21:21, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bias

The article seems quite biased towards disney and how good the movie is. For example, there are only good reviews in the critical response... Someone needs to add negative ones to even it up.

Making this it's own section. Try the + button if you didn't use it.--Viridis^{talk|contributions} 03:50, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mealy-Mouthed Statements

The last trivia comment is crawling with them, or at least boring writing. Not a member, so can someone edit for me?--68.173.19.198 02:49, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Paradox

<Spoiler Warning> Has any one else notice the extreme paradox situation that this movie has going? First of all the whole context on the movie is that doris the robotic bowler hat is using Goob (pardon spelling)aka Bowler Hat Guy to get revenge on the future version of Lewis, who disabled her because she was ,well, evil. The paradox is that if Doris had succeeded in destroying Lewis' hopes and mass produced herself Lewis would never have grown up to be an inventor and would therefore have never invented Doris. If Lewis never invented Doris then she couldn't go back to the past and shatter Lewis' dreams and he would then grow up to be an inventor and invent Doris who would make it so he never invented her ect, ect, the paradox continues. Now if this robotic hat is the brains of the opperation and I know for a fact Goob wasn't then why didn't she notice this painfully obvious paradox and devise a slightly less involved plan to destroy Lewis? P.S. Yes I do like to analyze childrens movies for fun in excruciating detail. Tune in to TMNT and I'll analyze the old live action movies. :)

[edit] Trivia Section

I removed the following thing from the Trivia Section

The lead frog Frankie was more than likely named after Frank Sinatra.

More than likely doens't mean its completely true. Unless proven otherwise I believe it should be left out of the article. Julie 04:18, 8 April 2007 (UTC)