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[edit] Mediation Case: 2006-07-22 Michael Behe

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[edit] Request Information

Request made by: ChulaOne 16:58, 22 July 2006 (UTC)ChulaOne
Where is the issue taking place?
Wikipedia entry for American biochemist Michael Behe
Who's involved?
various, including Guettarda
What's going on?
This article has been a battleground over NPOV that has proved impossible to accomplish mostly due, in my opinion, to the actions of Guettarda and others with strong, negative opinions regarding Michael Behe.
What would you like to change about that?
The article would benefit from mediation and likely an immediate "neutrality disputed" label.
Would you prefer we work discreetly? If so, how can we reach you?
if necessary, via my email address of record or my ChulaOne talk page

[edit] Mediator response

Closed: Parties unwilling to cooperate, and mediation was attempted prematurely. Discussion continues on Talk:Michael Behe#Mediation.

[edit] Compromise offers

This section is for listing and discussing compromise offers.

[edit] Discussion

While using the talk page of the article in question to solve a dispute is encouraged to involve a larger audience, feel free to discuss the case below if that is not possible. Other mediators are also encouraged to join in on the discussion as Wikipedia is based on consensus.

  • There is broad consensus among 6-7 long-time contributors to this article, including a number of admins, that the edits sought by ChulaOne (talk • contribs) have no place in the article. Thus this RFMC appears to me to be a frivolous, last-ditch effort by a troublesome editor to force in their NPOV-challenged edits that have failed to make consensus. And they failed to make consensus because he failed to bother to make a case for them, instead preferring to come here; I need not say that mediation is a last resort, not a first stop. I suggest that ChulaOne learn to start abiding by consensus and stop wasting other's time here. FeloniousMonk 18:58, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
  • About two weeks ago ChulaOne made changes to the article which included inaccurate information. These changes were reverted by several editors. Although he was asked to discuss the changes at Talk:Michael_Behe#New_comment, ChulaOne's contributions to the discussion did not include any concrete suggestions regarding the changes he wanted made to the page. His contributions to discussion were:
    • Views contrary to Behe's come through loud and clear in every recent revision. Heavily biased wording ala Plumbago are clearly against the spirit of Wikipedia and should be relegated to the Talk section and
    • Look, you clearly have an axe to grind here, and you do it quite well without the heavy-handedness of your reverts. Why not let readers reach their own conclusions? And to be fair, the full sentence does read " He is noted for advocating ..." Ann Coulter, by the way, has her own Wikipedia page if you care to weigh in on her, too.
  • Guettarda 19:13, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
ChulaOne: Its clear to me, after reviewing user talk pages, and the articles talk page that there is no need for mediation. Mediation requires all users who are not in accord to agree to it. If you still feel you are having problems, please see WP:ANI. Also, my advice is to please review the policy on living biographies, other policies and guidelines for reference and resolving disputes for addition means to help (you might also wish to try a method directly below the link for Mediation first: either current surveys or requests for comment). But thank you for giving mediation a try :). SynergeticMaggot 19:42, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
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