Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-07-05 Ohio Turnpike "original research" dispute
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[edit] Mediation Case: 2006-07-05 Ohio Turnpike "original research" dispute
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[edit] Request Information
- Request made by: Larrysphatpage 00:54, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- Where is the issue taking place?
- In the article Ohio Turnpike.
- Who's involved?
- User:SPUI and User:Larrysphatpage.
- What's going on?
- User:SPUI has now twice removed a section called "Shunpiking" that lists routes that can be used to avoid the Ohio Turnpike, claiming it constitutes original research. I (User:Larrysphatpage) disagree, as that information can be found using any published map of highways in the state of Ohio. (Note: You may need to pull up a previous version of the Ohio Turnpike page to see the "Shunpiking" section.)
- What would you like to change about that?
- I simply want outside opinions on the question, does the "Shunpiking" section constitute original research? I would assume good faith with most editors, but User:SPUI has a long history of acting unilaterally against consensus (see his user talk page).
- Would you prefer we work discreetly? If so, how can we reach you?
- I'm not concerned about working discreetly, but you can reach me by e-mail at larry@phatpage.org if you like.
[edit] Mediator response
Hi, there. I am Cowman109Talk over from the Mediation Cabal. This isn't exactly a mediation case as you are asking for a third opinion, but I should still be able to help. Using WP:NOR and WP:NOT as sources of policy, it does appear that the section in question is not suited to a Wikipedia article. Unfortunately, Wikipedia isn't the place to give driving directions (WP:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_an_indiscriminate_collection_of_information specifically states that Wikipedia is not an instruction manual or a travel guide. Does that clear things up a bit? Cowman109Talk 01:19, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- Closing case. Nothing new under the sun. Agreed its better off at RfC than a medCabal case.
[edit] Compromise offers
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[edit] Discussion
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There's certainly nothing wrong with a few sentences like "State Route 2 is a non-tolled freeway that parallels the Turnpike" etc. But the detailed driving directions are not appropriate. --SPUI (T - C) 01:53, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
