Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-06-17 Editorial Abuse User ccwaters
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[edit] Mediation Case: 2006-06-17 Editorial Abuse User ccwaters
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[edit] Request Information
- Request made by: Mlnsports 17:06, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- Where is the issue taking place? Sports sections of Wikipedia
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- Who's involved? Editor ccwaters, User mlnsports
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- What's going on?
- ...ccwaters keeps deleting valid links to properly qualified external source material, cited as additional resources (See Andy Marte as an example). Often we provide valid links to INFORMATION available on a player or subject where you are asking for more content because you quite frankly don't have it. We can't contribute our copyrighted content, so we provide valid external links as specified. ccwaters calls that SPAM. We're not hustling t-shirts or telephone cards. We're a valid news gathering organziation, recognized by MLB, the NBA, the NHL, the AFL, and 47 minor and independent sports leagues since 2000. We have more than 3.5 million readers on our own. We believe in Wikipedia, though, and would like to contribute to the information flow by providing access to information that we have paid to put out in the web universe.
According to ccwaters thinking, if one of our readers placed it, or we became liars and fabricated addresses to look like someone else other than whom we are, then it would be okay.
How goofy is that?
Is it useful for us to get additional eyes reading our content? Sure. Is it useful to those eyes, though, to get the only biography on a player that is avaiable anywhere for three or more years?
MLN has been the only four-sport, original feature publication in the niche market of minor league and independent sports.
ccwaters takes this whole process as if he is the editor of a competing resource, rather than as the measured custodian of a broad information gateway. I have tried to speak to him about it several times. Thus far he just thumbs his nose at me, even when I cite that we meet the mission statement, and that his interpretation of the spam calls would, by his definition, mean that there should be no external links at all, because at some point, that promotes the resource providing the information.
- What would you like to change about that?
- ...Allow valid links to our source content where it is appropriate to the subject matter. Instruction to ccwaters to correct his editorial policies to comply with the larger Wikimedia resource agenda to provide both good content and the gateway to good content on any subject that meets Wikipedia standards.
- Would you prefer we work discreetly? If so, how can we reach you?
- ...brianross@minorleaguenews.com AIM:mlnbrianross
[edit] Mediator response
I am taking up the case; please see User talk:Mlnsports. Sdedeo (tips) 23:27, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Compromise offers
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[edit] Discussion
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- The complaining party has disappeared, is there anything else I need to do? ccwaters 19:25, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
