Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-02-25 Systema
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[edit] Request for cabal mediation
[edit] Request Information
- Request made by: Sam Spade 19:36, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- Where is the issue taking place?
- The links Wikipedia:Vandalism_in_progress#Pages, Talk:Systema#merge, User_talk:Sam_Spade/_-_archive/Januar_2006#Systema, and Systema - history should be helpful.
An update, User_talk:Pathoschild#WP:VIP.2FAN
- Who's involved?
- User:Sysy, User:KimvdLinde, possibly others from the historical conversation back in early January.
- What's going on?
- A merger made back in January is suddenly being rather hotly disputed by a handful of non-native english speakers. I have been accused of vandalism, and told to "go away".
- They feel I was wrong to merge prior to discussion back in January. I feel they are failing to appreciate (or engage in) subtleties, such as the fact that the matter was discussed at length back in January.
- Comment: As for the claim discussed at length: Merge tag inserted 06:39, 5 January 2006 [1], merging started 08:02, 5 January 2006 [2], merge tag removed 08:16, 5 January 2006 [3]. Merging announcement at talk page made at 08:13, 5 January 2006 [4]. So, it has not been discussed at all, no time was given. (BTW, pointing this out was my only contribution to the discussion as I checked the Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress page) --KimvdLinde 23:47, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- What would you like to change about that?
- I would like what is best for the page to be done. It is my appraisal that these articles are on a similar (obscure) topic, were badly in need of a rewrite and a merger, and that I did that back in January. I discussed the matter at that time. If I was wrong, so be it, but I haven't seen a case for it. There seems to be a communication barrier.
- If you'd prefer we work discreetly, how can we reach you?
- In any way you like. I don't require discretion, but an agreeable to options if they are preferred by others.
- Would you be willing to mediate yourself and accept an assignment as a mediator?
- Certainly. Sam Spade 19:52, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Mediator response
[edit] Comments by others
I've never seen hint of these "non-native english speakers" Spade speaks of. Useful links have already been included above, explaining things (most notibly the lack of discussion and a vote before Spade's original merger) Regardless, this issue seems to have been resolved. [5] The associated topics were revisited, rewritten and this issue has been further-explained in Talk:Systema. Now that the original January damage has been repaired, a proper merger vote is welcome. -- Sy / (talk) 18:53, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
