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[edit] Chronology
Moved from the article... - SoM 23:18, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
What follows is a [chronology] (i.e., reading order) for all of the comics in Marvel's MC2 line. Flashbacks (marked "FB") are included at their correct chronological positions, but it may be advisable to read the smaller ones (consisting of a few panels) at the same position as the rest of the issue in which it appears. Pages are counted without including advertisements. The chronology was researched and compiled by Jimmy Flowers.
A-Next 10-FB
Spider-Girl 10 [Time Travel] (Page 9, panel 3 through Page 20)
Spider-Girl 11 [Time Travel](Pages 1-19)
Spider-Girl 44 (Page 15, panels 3 and 5)
Spider-Girl 48-FB1 (Page 6, panels 2-3)
Spider-Girl 48-FB2 (Page 9)
Spider-Girl 49-FB1 (Page 1, panels 2, 4, and 6)
Spider-Girl 49-FB2 (Page 7, panels 2+)
Spider-Girl 49-FB3 (Page 9, panel 2 thru Page 10, panel 3)
Spider-Girl 48-FB3 (Page 10, panels 5-6)
Spider-Girl 49-FB4 (Page 14, panels 2-4)
Spider-Girl 49-FB5 (Page 16, panel 3 thru Page 19, panel 4)
Spider-Girl 7 (Pages 21-22)
Spider-Girl 32-FB1 (Page 11, panels 2 through 3)
Spider-Girl 32-FB2 (Page 14, panel 3)
Darkdevil 1-FB (Page 21, panel 4 thru Page 22)
Spider-Girl 39-FB (Page 15, panel 4)
Spider-Girl 40-FB1 (Pages 13-14)
A-Next 7-FB1 (Page 7, panel 2 through Page 8)
A-Next 7-FB2 (Pages 12-13)
A-Next 7-FB3 (Pages 18-19)
J2 7-FB1 (Pages 6-8)
Fantastic Five 4-FB1 (Page 5, panel 3 through Page 15 and Pages 18-19)
Spider-Girl 32-FB2 (Page 14, panels 4 thru 5)
J2 1
A-Next 1
What If (Volume 2) 105
J2 2
A-Next 2
Spider-Girl 1
A-Next 3 (Up to Page 20, panel 2)
J2 3-FB (Page 3 through Page 15, panel 1)
A-Next 3 (Page 20, panel 3+)
A-Next 4
J2 3 (Pages 1-2, Page 15 panel 2 through Page 23)
Spider-Girl 2 to 5
J2 4 and 5
Spider-Girl 0
A-Next 5
Spider-Girl 6 and 7
J2 6 Stories 1 to 3
Spider-Girl 8
J2 7 Stories 1 to 3
Spider-Girl 9
J2 8
Spider-Girl 10 and 11
A-Next 6
J2 9 Stories 1 to 3
A-Next 7 to 11
The Buzz 1-FB1 (Page 4, panel 3 thru page 9)
Spider-Girl 12
The Buzz 1-FB2 (Page 10)
The Buzz 1
The Buzz 2 (Pages 1-8)
Spider-Girl Annual 1 Stories 1 (Pages 1-25) 4 (Pages 47 thru 48) and 5 (Pages 49-55)
A-Next 12
Fantastic Five 1
Wild Thing 0
Wild Thing 1
Spider-Girl 13 to 15
Fantastic Five 2 to 4
Wild Thing 2 Story 1 and 2
Wild Thing 3 Stories 1 and 2
Fantastic Five 5
Spider-Girl 16
Wild Thing 4 Stories 1 and 2
Spider-Girl 17
Wild Thing 5 Stories 1 and 2
Spider-Girl 18 to 22
The Buzz 2 (Pages 9+)
Spider-Girl 23
The Buzz 3 (Pages 1-5)
Spider-Girl 24
Spider-Girl One-Half
The Buzz 3 (Pages 6+)
Spider-Girl 25 to 27
Darkdevil 1 to 3
Spider-Girl 28 to 87
Last Hero Standing 1 to 5
Spider-Girl 88 to 100
Last Planet Standing 1 to 5
I have merged successive issues of the same series (most notably Spider-Girl) and stories from the same issues of given series (if they were listed in order) into single lines to make it better readable without disrupting the order itself. Also added What If v2 105 to the original list, since there the MC2 universe was first featured in Marvel publications, not exactly sure if the placement is right but will check up to confirm that and readjust if neccesary. --The Fifth Horseman 15:15, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Corrected placement of What If v2 105 and Spider-Girl 0, added Spider Girl 89-100 and Last Planet Standing 1-5.--The Fifth Horseman 16:37, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Cut-off
The article mentions that several plot points of recent comics (Decimation, "Avengers Disassembled", Thor's destruction of Asgard) didn't occur in MC2 continuity, and on Spider-Girl's page it says that "Spider-Man: The Other" never occurred either. Given that would it be accurate to say categorically that there's some cut-off point after which events in Earth-616 are no longer canonical? If so, when and where do you think it would be located? I suppose such a statement might be too broad, and some events may not have been explicitly referenced as happening or not happening but...well, I don't know MC2. Vignettelante 00:02, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
The earliest known branching occured with Spider-Girl. Basing on her Wiki entry, I'd say the pivotal point happened somwhere in ASM#434 or #435, when Aunt May was brought back instead. --The Fifth Horseman 15:22, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
While, there's a certain divergin point, it isn't as cut and dry as we think. Even though MC2 branches off Earth-616, Tom is known to make references to the Marvel Universe 1999 and up:
- Such as having Araña appearing in the first Spider-Man Family One Shot. The MC2 Arana apparently had an active career earlier than her 616 counterpart. Spider-Girl even believed Arana made her debut after Spider-Man's retirement.
- While small, in Spider-Girl #54, Peter mentions to May a time he fought a band of mimes. Refering of course to a story that was written by Paul Jenkins. 66.233.190.223 10:55, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Tom Defalco has stated it bracnhed off in Amazing Spider-Man #441 (revealed in Spider-Girl #48). Sononsj
While true, it doesn't mean he won't fit the events in the MC2 when it strikes him. It simply happens at a different point in time than it does in Earth-616. As shown in Spider-Girl #39, Mattie Franklin did have a career as Spider-Woman in the MC2 past. 71.115.231.16 04:54, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Dead characters question
While there are rules concerning the death of a character with the list of differences between Earth-982, would a section for 616 characters be appropriate, for the sake of references that is? 66.233.190.223 10:55, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Please explain what do you exactly mean by that.--The Fifth Horseman 09:14, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Would it be ok to add a section for all of the mainstream Marvel heroes who are dead prior to Spider-Girl #0 and further. Characters like:
- Norman Osborn/Green Goblin
- Liz Allen Osborn/Nelson (In MC2 continuity she and Foggy Nelson stayed together).
- Doctor Octopus (He appeared in #3 of The Buzz and dies prior to Spider-Girl #68).
There are more, but you get the idea. 71.115.231.16 09:44, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
In other words, a list of all deceased characters in that universe? I don't see what purpose could that serve. What do you intend that for? --The Fifth Horseman 14:57, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- It's to serve as information to those new to the MC2 Comics. Is information on here suppose to be suitable to the US Goverment? If niot, then can the attitude.
And again, I'm refering to the major 616 characters that died in that universe. 71.115.231.16 01:27, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
