Wikipedia talk:Mathematics Collaboration of the Week

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[edit] for non-mathematicians

A mathematician who wants to look up something related to mathematics is going to go to mathworld.wolfram.com -- which, BTW, needs a Wiki article. For this reason, I think math articles should begin with an introduction for non-mathematicians. That is, the article should NOT begin "Let W be a differentiable manifold... ." I've added "Introduction for non-mathematicians" to several math articles. Others who are confident of their ability to explain mathematics to the intelligent layman may want to do the same. Rick Norwood

A mathematician who wants to look up something related to mathematics is going to go to mathworld.wolfram.com"

Not always. Some wikipedia mathematics articles are distinctly superior to their counterparts on mathworld. See for example cumulant, Faa di Bruno's formula, errors and residuals in statistics. Admittedly, I am the principal author of those; that's why they come to mind for me. There are many others. Michael Hardy 01:12, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

I agree that Let W be a manifold ... is a bad first para. It may be a good second para. But I agree with MH about WP as compared to MathWorld. We are for example incorporating material from PlanetMath. Charles Matthews 11:53, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Outdated

This is seriously outdated, someone wants to keep it up to date? else it should be proposed for deletion Elfguy 13:11, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • If I remember I will do this tommorow. It was previously link on the COTWs template which is why it wasn't put under the non-active template. Now that I've linked it to the page I thought we could give it a little while to see if interest grows otherwise it will be placed with other inactvie collaborations. Falphin 01:24, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Also, these pages don't get vfd, as they are kept for historical interest. Falphin 01:35, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Non-stubby articles

I don't see why the COTW article should exclude non-stubby articles. Many of our existing math articles have a great deal of content, but are nearly impossible to read or use because they are poorly written and/or poorly organized. I have personally been tempted to improve many of these articles but then backed away when I saw how much junk I would have to read through and edit in order to improve the quality of the article. I suspect many other authors feel the same. These articles would greatly benefit from a collabrative effort. I say we should improve our quality before adding more quantity. -- Fropuff 04:42, 2005 Feb 11 (UTC)

Rules changed; non-stubs allowed should they be very disorganized/just plain bad. ral315 05:23, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)
What about getting good articles up to featured status? --MarSch 11:39, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Great idea. Here is a list of articles that have featured standard now, to model other articles on:--Fenice 13:41, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Ackermann function · Algorithm · Spoken content iconFractal · Infinite monkey theorem · Margin of error · Prisoner's dilemma · Regular polytope · Sudoku · Trigonometric function

Thanks --MarSch 15:56, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Some mathematician articles

Recently I added Nicholas Mercator — I was able to locate precious little information on him, but haven't marked it as a stub because I'm not sure if there is much more to say. I read about him on this excellent page which gives descriptions of many mathematicians we lack articles for:

http://www.maths.tcd.ie/pub/HistMath/People/17thCentury/RouseBall/RB_Math17C.html

I think it'd be cool if we had articles on each of them (but of course remember to not write anything too similar to this page, and find additional material if you can.) Deco 06:29, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Any action?

Shouldn't the new article have been selected by now? I just came across this CoTW, and it seems interesting, so I'd like to get involved. Apparently not too many people are paying attention to it? I don't want to change the page without discussing it since I haven't been involved in this project and could be missing something, but I'll go ahead and do it in accordance with the posted rules tomorrow, unless someone posts telling me why it hasn't been changed. -- Zarvok 08:30, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Action taken

Well, I changed everything over to Tensor, which won the tie at 3 votes by being the first to have been nominated. I tried to update all the pages that needed to be changed to reflect this, but may have missed some, who knows. I only gave the article a week and 2 days so that we can keep the rollovers on a monday, which seems to make sense. (Also because it seems to me that picking big unwieldly articles instead of small articles to which it is easier to add info and make big changes seems silly in the early phases of the math cotw project). At any rate, hopefully I applied the rules correctly and changed everything I needed to. Let's fix up this article! Zarvok | Talk 08:52, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

unfortunately tensor is closely linked to several other articles and is the unwieldiest mess I've found. --MarSch 11:41, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Votes

being that this is being relaunched, so the number of votes to keep the artical around be reduced to 3 until this becomes more popular? --ZeWrestler 20:25, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • Yeah, I would say. At the rate this one is going it will be under the historical category in a week. Falphin 21:58, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Weekly or fortnightly?

I see that it returned to a weekly schedule. Why? I don't think this is a very good idea as this collaboration is attracting few contributors at the moment. -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 21:10, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Well, it's possible to become fortnightly, but title change will be necessary by then. Deryck C. 02:39, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
I'm seeking more opinions about the 7 or 14 days issue. Deryck C. 12:17, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Dead

Is the Mathematics Collaboration of the Week dead? If no-one objects I'd like to get it up and running. I think it's a really nice feature. If nobody responds in a few days I think I'll take it upon myself to get things moving, but I assume somebody else used to be in charge of this?

Meekohi 15:40, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

I'd be happy if you revived this. I am sure there are many people who are interested, and I think we need a Mathematics Collaboration (even though I myself probably won't contribute much text).--Fenice 17:10, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Yes, this page is long since dead. Multiple comparisons has been the COTW since 18 September 2005. User:Ral315 started this page together with Portal:Mathematics, but he appears to have abandonded both long ago. I recently took over the maintenance of the portal page, but I haven't had the ambition to do anything with this page. It appears that User:Deryck Chan was the last person taking any sort of responsibility for this page. You could ask him if he has any intentions to do anything here. But as far as I'm concerned, you are more than welcome to take over. -- Fropuff 17:14, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MathsCOTW: Put on article/talk page?

It seems to me that putting {{MathsCOTW}} on the main article page is more sensible and visible. Any opinions for/against changing the rule that it should be put on the talk page instead? Meekohi 15:19, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

The main point is that the article page should be just that: an article, not a place for discussing editing issues. See Wikipedia:Avoid self-references. The talk page is the appropriate place for listing editing notices such as {{MathsCOTW}}. Yes, it is less visible there, but I think that's the way it has to be. -- Fropuff 15:39, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
The issue has been raised again by Oleg Alexandrov on Wikipedia talk:Collaborations. You might be interested in taking part. Pruneau 00:35, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Version 1.0 core topics

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Thanks. Maurreen 04:18, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Biography

Let us know if you happen to pick an article on a person and we'll alert our members! plange 06:00, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A suggestion

I believe that MCOTW should be done monthly (or possibly even bimonthly) because of the very few contributors. False discovery rate has been MCOTW for over a month now!!! Sr13 20:38, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

That's a good idea. I also think more people would be attracted if they thought there was more time. --Chan-Ho (Talk) 13:31, 7 February 2007 (UTC)