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1 Side Effect.
2 MattFacts
3 second rope
4 Matt+melina
5 You Screwed Matt
6 Downfall move
7 Hardy Boyz Reunite
8 Reason for absence
9 The Simpsons
10 Myspace
11 External Links
12 Add it.
13 Is It True?
14 Corner Powerbomb
15 Matt is teaming with Jeff--deal with it
16 Not a week by week event
17 The Scar
18 Cruxifix Sitout Powerbomb
19 Edge and Lita

[edit] Side Effect.

Uhm, what's all this about a Sleeper/Side Slam combination? Isn't the Side Effect a sitout Rock Bottom/side slam? Methnor 18:41, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] MattFacts

This section really needs cleaning up. There are repetitions of facts ("Matt is appearing in his fourth Wrestlemania", "Matt has been in four Wrestlemania's"), and have any of these been verified? Some of them are completely useless ("Mattitude is practiced in 100 countries"). That's all the bitching and whining I can think of ATM, but yeah. Koberulz 11:14, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

As mentioned in the text just before them, these 'facts' all appeared on Matt's website, or they were displayed in his entrance video whenever he came to the ring.. including the fcats "Matt has one more leg then Zack Gowen" and "Matt has more teeth then Chris Benoit", or something along those lines.Dbalsdon 17:25, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but is it really necessary to have these (especially this many of them) on his page?Koberulz 12:54, 8 March 2006 (UTC) and some of them a while back were really inappropriate,like..well i dont think i need to go there,i hope not..

is matt still going out with ashley?

that has nothing to do with MattFacts. you also need to sign your message. I don't believe they are still dating, but i'm not 100% certain. Koberulz 14:23, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] second rope

he does the downfall from the top rope acctually

Rubbish

[edit] Matt+melina

melina never asked matt to face mnm at no way out. she thought that matt was joining mnm (which would make it mnmm)but matt declined that and took the invitational.

Please sign your messages. It is basic Wikipedia courtesy. Thank You! --S iva1979^{Talk to me} 02:23, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You Screwed Matt

Is the fans chanting "You Screwed Matt" really the fans referencing The Montreal Screwjob? I think that part should be taken out, because I am certain that it' more likely that the fans were just chanting it, not trying to reference anything. I won't take it out until I get a second opinion or something though.--69.153.168.83 18:54, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Downfall move

Matt Hardy has started using the elbow variation of Downfall more these days. Stop removing it and let it associate with the leg drop variation. Thank you.

Also, stop bolding Downfall and Side Effect because they are not finishers. Matt's finisher is only the Twist of Fate.

Yeah, only the Downfall and the Twist of Fate are his finishers, so stop everyone!

What about early in his career when his finisher was named JLT (Just Like That). Could we put Twist of Fate/JLT?--TG 50 16:00, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

He didn't call it that, someone else (the name escapes me at the moment) used the Twist of Fate and called it the JLT, as far as I'm aware. M e t h n o r^{Talk to me!}

Also, Downfall *is* a finishing move, he HAS finished matches with it. M e t h n o r^{Talk to me!}

Yeah, and Kane has won matches with the big boot, but its not his finisher. More often than not a downfall only results in a two count. He only wins with it when he dives off of a cage or something. Hybrid

[edit] Hardy Boyz Reunite

Jeff Hardy seeking a lot of interest in joing Smackdown.

See Jeff Hardy disscussion for more.

They're slated to be in the Elimination match alongside DX and CM Punk.

[edit] Reason for absence

I found this on the Hardy Show official website: The following is from Matt Hardy's official website:

Hello everyone,

Just a little update on Matt for the sake of killing any rumors and assumptions as to his status.

Simply enough, when Matt was given the standard blood test, they found dormant trace elements of the Staph infection which plagued him many months ago.

After a light antibiotic treatment and a few weeks off to properly rest, Matt will be back...

Feel free to send him your thoughts, possibly via a 'get well' thread on the board?

Hope all of you are making the most of the summer!

Andrew

[edit] The Simpsons

I deleted the part about "The Simpsons" episode because it is unclear if she means the WWE's Hardy Boyz or the mystery book series "The Hardy Boys." Degeneration x 18, August 2006 8:06

[edit] Myspace

The myspace sentence doesn't make sense - they who? - and it seems irrellevant anyway so I am removing it for now. 24.154.173.50 04:00, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External Links

This page has far too many external links, some of which lead to sites that are down. I'm going to delete of all the un-needed links.

[edit] Add it.

Somebody should add what happened at the Matt/Jeff/Lita conversation at Unforgiven. I need details.--989 RVD 00:01, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

We don't do week-by-week coverage of the WWE, seeing as that would make articles huge, but here are the details. Matt walked up to Jeff after his match to comfort him after his loss. They said a few words to each other, and then Lita walked up. She insulted both of them, calling them both losers. She walks away, and the scene ends. That is basically what happened. The Hybrid 07:43, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks man. You're good.--989 RVD 21:56, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Not a problem. T H L 04:20, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is It True?

Is it true that Matt Hardy and Gregory Helms are bitter rivals in real life or is it kayfabe?

Strictly kayfabe. They are best friends in real life, actually. They do have some friendly competition, but that's as far as it goes. T H L 16:10, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Corner Powerbomb

I added the Corner Sitout Powerbomb to Hardy's signature movelist as he seems to use it on a regular basis.

Thats odd. I don't recall seeing him useing it. --Mikedk9109 (sup) (stalk me) 20:09, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Nor do I. -- T H L 10:34, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Matt is teaming with Jeff--deal with it

Seriously, I've put in that Matt is teaming with his brother Jeff for the first time in 5 years at Survivor Series at least 3 times, and each time it keeps being taken out. This is NOT a week to week thing; this is an important note in Matt's career. I don't know why people keep taking it out. Maybe you don't want Matt to team with Jeff again; I don't know, but he is, and so it should be in here. Anakinjmt 03:20, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Read the warning before you keep adding it, and maybe you wound understand:

DO NOT ADD WEEK BY WEEK EVENTS, RUMOURS OR SPECULATION. THIS INCLUDES ANNOUNCED MATCHES THAT HAVE NOT YET OCCURRED. WIKIPEDIA IS NOT A NEWS SITE BUT AN ONLINE ENCYCLOPAEDIA. Please see the articles "Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not" and "Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles" for more information. -- Mikedk9109 (talk) 03:24, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

What? That doesn't apply here. This is not a week by week event, a rumor, a speculation, announcing a match that hasn't been announced yet, or even a generic spoiler. Your logic makes no sense here. It's well known by now that Matt is teaming up with Jeff again, and the article should mention that. Anakinjmt 03:26, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

This is a future event, and future events are not to be added. Ask any other user who edits wrestler articles regulary, and they will tell you the same thing. -- Mikedk9109 (talk) 03:28, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Survivor Series hasn't happened yet, so it is in the future. -- T H L^CCD 03:30, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Considering this is a historic moment, it should be here. Besides, I've seen things written like that countless times in other articles, which btw are still there. Anakinjmt 03:34, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Maybe, people don't get around to dealing with it, because they are stuck on useless problems like this. -- Mikedk9109 (talk) 03:40, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Anyway, I would appreciate knowing which ones, as a good number of my edits are reverting stuff like that. Anyway, everyone thought that the "reunion" of Team Extreme at that one PPV would be historic to, but so far it hasn't been used in any angles. Also, it hasn't become historic yet. Historic = an important moment that has taken place in the past. It hasn't happened yet, and policy is policy. If you don't like it, I'm sorry, but it isn't going to change. We cannot add anything that hasn't happened yet, period. That is just the way it is, sorry. -- T H L^CCD 03:43, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Alright, don't want to do it yet, fine, I can tolerate that. Survivor Series is only 9 days away anyways. However, if we're going to be like that, then I've got a list of articles that we need to edit for that same reason, because they both mention upcoming matches at either Survivor Series or December to Dismember

Big Show

Test

Bobby Lashley

CM Punk

Sgt. Slaughter

Chavo Guerrero

Mr. Kennedy

Anakinjmt 04:05, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, you are the first person to take me seriously when I said that. Well, I'm on it. -- T H L^CCD 04:06, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not a week by week event

I have been trying to add the following to matt (and jeff's) page but it keeps getting removed or "immaturly" edited.

"On the November 27th, 2006 episode of Raw, Jeff teamed up with his brother Matt to face off against Rated-RKO for the World Tag Team Championship. The Hardys won the match via DQ therefore Rated-RKO remained the World Tag Team Champions."

The reason I added it is because it was a title match and it was the first time in so many years (on RAW) on which they have teamed up... also because Matt made a move to Raw. Stop removing it please

First of all, Matt is still on Smackdown.[1] Second, nothing came of the match. They didn't win the title, and they aren't involved in a feud for the titles as of yet. That is a total week by week event. -- T H L^CCD 16:51, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

How is it week-by-week when it's only one event? Week-by-week, if I understand correctly, involves writing down what happens each and every single week. This was one match. One event. One key feature, by the way. Same day, same week, same show. You can't be calling it week-by-week. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.247.22.151 (talk) 01:49, 8 December 2006 (UTC).

It isn't a key event seeing as they didn't actually win the titles, and they aren't officially feuding with Rated-RKO yet. If they start feuding with Rated-RKO, then I'd be willing to add it personally. Week-by-week, when used in the context of wrestling articles on Wikipedia, generally means that the event seems notable on its own at the moment, but in the long run it really didn't affect anything. These kinds of things have clogged up wrestling articles in the past; therefore, they are typically removed on sight as a preemptive measure. Week-by-week is really another way of saying that we don't know if it will be notable yet, so we are going to leave it out until it has become notable. -- T H L R 03:12, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Scar

Shouldn't the Scar be listed as one of his finishers, not just a signature move? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kingkrispy (talk • contribs) 14:15, 13 December 2006 (UTC).

It's an inactive finisher now, so no. Jam

[edit] Cruxifix Sitout Powerbomb

Why was this removed, I recall Matt using this in ROH and I've also seen him use it while in the WWE. Jam

[edit] Edge and Lita

It was proven that they were never togther so why is that bull*** lie still up {(sipermike{}

Give us a reliable source that says it never happened. If you do that, then we will remove it without hesitation. However, if you do not then we are forced to treat your statement as rumor and speculation, which is inherently unencyclopedic. -- The Hyb rid 05:55, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

http://www.wrestlezone.com/ and The whole thing was speculation to begin with

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