Talk:Master Juba
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[edit] Please keep the large Dickens quote
Dear future editors: I'm aware that such extensive quotes are not typically used in articles like this, but I ask you to make an exception in this case. Dickens captures the atmosphere magnificently and the final paragraph conveys more about Juba, I think, than entire chapters of dry historical writing could. Thx. JDG 22:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- This article sorely needs expansion, and should it make it to the length it deserves, the Dickens quote will not be obtrusive at all. I hope to one day take a crack at this article, with George Washington Dixon as a model of sorts. I really like the flavor that period quotes can bring to an article. — BrianSmithson 22:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- I completely agree with keeping the Dickens quote. - Jmabel | Talk 17:16, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Copyvio issues
This is an unfortunate case. This page has been a copyvio for a long time. Innocent editors have worked on it. But the meat of the article is still copied from another site. I used the Wayback Machine at www.archive.org and the other site looks like it came first. Especially given related pages, the audio version there, etc. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz 22:36, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- Really? Where do you think the copy vio occurred? The earliest versions of this article look little or nothing like the page at masterjuba.com. — BrianSmithson 22:37, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- All the way back at the second edit. Opening of the other page: "Master Juba’s real name was William Henry Lane. He was born a free black man in Rhode Island in 1825, and began his career as a performer in minstrel shows. He played the banjo and the tambourine and could imitate the moves of all of the best dancers of his time." Opening of the second edit: "Master Juba was the stage name of William Henry Lane. He was born a free black man in Rhode Island in 1825, and began his career as a performer in minstrel shows in the 1840s. He played the banjo and the tambourine and could imitate the moves of all of the best dancers of his time." The copvio was started by an anon. Therefore I didn't put a warning of the IP talk page. It looks like the anon tried to hide the copy vio. He didn't do it all at once and changed a tiny number number of words. The long Dickens quote is identical to the one at masterjuba.com, too. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz 22:55, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- Well, the Dickens quote is fair game, since it's PD. But I'll take a look at the rest later today to see if I can salvage it. -- BrianSmithson 02:22, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
- I've gone through the article edit-by-edit and restored anything that did not originate from or build on anything from 204.210.36.114. The remaining article lacks some of the original context, but it's not copyvio. — BrianSmithson 12:17, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
- All the way back at the second edit. Opening of the other page: "Master Juba’s real name was William Henry Lane. He was born a free black man in Rhode Island in 1825, and began his career as a performer in minstrel shows. He played the banjo and the tambourine and could imitate the moves of all of the best dancers of his time." Opening of the second edit: "Master Juba was the stage name of William Henry Lane. He was born a free black man in Rhode Island in 1825, and began his career as a performer in minstrel shows in the 1840s. He played the banjo and the tambourine and could imitate the moves of all of the best dancers of his time." The copvio was started by an anon. Therefore I didn't put a warning of the IP talk page. It looks like the anon tried to hide the copy vio. He didn't do it all at once and changed a tiny number number of words. The long Dickens quote is identical to the one at masterjuba.com, too. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz 22:55, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
