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Contents 1 I need some advice 2 API for IRC channels 3 Warning on usertalk 4 oops 5 BAG help 6 RFA Thanks 7 AWB 8 Ling Lun 9 Bot restored vandalism on "Batman" 10 SVN 11 AWB Dev Talk Page 12 RE:Thret on user page 13 DRV closures 14 Hope all goes well 15 Signpost updated for March 26th, 2007. 16 hey 17 VB.Net 18 Help here 19 MartinBot source 20 More MartinBot stuff 21 re: meadiation 22 MartinBot

[edit] I need some advice

hey! I probably would've filed a regular request; but the issue is, well it's about enforcing fundamental wikipedia policies/guidelines in a wikipedia in another language. I probably should be filing requests or whatever on that particular wikipedia, but the place is legally void (or something).

I need some counseling.

ok the background is as follows. (you can just skip it)

• the language uses latin alphabet, but there's this rule that proper nouns should be transliterated (but there is no clear, standardized, general definition to what extent or how it is done so there is a large number of usually dubious systems or actually just lists) (if the language used IPA characters, everything would be near perfect, but it's doesn't)

• I made this wonderful inclusionist proposal-to make this sort of huge reference list of those proper nouns that are transliterated without any ambiguity for reference when someone's invented a new transliteration because he'd know better! and all other more obscure designations (that you can find no reference about in local literature) would be written as they are originally leaving no place for ambiguity.

• from a total of ~10 admins, i guess, two engaded in discussion (if you call that a discussion) one proposed that we (editors in that particular wiki) invent some sort of our transliteration for the ISO tables and the second one ruled that spelling original is 100% unacceptable (he didn't source it and frankly i think he couldn't) and proposed that we replicate the pronancation, as we feel it should be done. he didn't say anything in response to my arguments that everything must be backed-up with literature (even if it's in a foreign language as it usually is) or that you don't use wikipedia to publish your thoughts .

• then i illustrated my proposal with examples then he repeated what he had already said that we should invent article headlines ourselves.

• he didn't source a single one of his claims and in my article on Kyūshū now there are at least 3 diff. spellings of the word all over the text [1] (thats just an example).

I'm afraid there might be problems in his (their) willingness to come to a consensus. as well I'm concerned that some people there might perceive adminship as some sort of irrevocable status or whatever, granting them right to reject other peoples opinions on the basis of the unquestionable righteousness of their possibly biased (unsourced) views.

So the question is actually where do go if admins in charge of a local wikipedia abuse their privileges? or just refuse to engage in a discussion bouncing off everything I say with unsourced claims what they think is right. I'd be really glad if you could give me some advice on how are proposals made or how is admin misconduct treated on local wikipedias or refer me somewhere okyea

actually I think I just changed my stance on this issue,

[2] (it's a comment someone made regarding wikipedias in smaller languages, his point is that encuclopedicness in smaller language wikipedias is not that important which I actually totally agree with, a good point on this issue) okyea

[edit] API for IRC channels

Is there any document which exists which discusses how to interact with the IRC channels in Wikipedia? I did some searching but didn't find anything. --D 00:31, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Not that I know of, I'm afraid not. It may be worth asking around on the various IRC channels (eg #wikimedia-toolserver perhaps) for advice. If you understand C#, I can send you some code to look at for an idea of how to do it. Martinp23 19:08, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Warning on usertalk

Why did the bot put a warning on my talk? This is the edit I reverted [3]. It for vandalism by another user.--Paloma Walker 21:39, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I removed the warning. Please check the diff again.--Paloma Walker 00:17, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

OK - it seems to have got in a strange sort of edit conflict (because of the way it works). You were perfectly correct to remvoe the warning :). Thanks, Martinp23 19:09, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] oops

When you accidentally archived March 22 and March 23 of RD/S together, and then restored the March 23 content, you somehow restored an out-of-date version of the March 23 content. I've fixed it, I think (now in the archive). —Steve Summit (talk) 02:08, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for sorting it - it seems that some of the date headers were in the incorrect format, hence the bot grabbed far too much text. Martinp23 19:10, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] BAG help

I've got an issue I'd love to hear some more on at:Wikipedia_talk:Bots/Approvals_group#Another_second_opinion_needed if you have a moment. Thanks, — xaosflux ^Talk 03:16, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RFA Thanks

I would like to thank you for your support in my recent RFA. As you may or may not be aware, it passed with approximately 99% support. I ensure you that I will use the tools well, and if I ever disappoint you, I am open to recall. If you ever need anything, don't hesitate to leave me a note on my talkpage. Thanks again, ^demon^{[omg plz]} 20:24, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AWB

About this commit]: many templates have comments which include the template call, such as <!-- {{uw-test1}} -->, which confuses the Special:ExpandTemplates function (a MediaWiki bug). I've committed a different version.  :-) —METS501 (talk) 00:04, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Makes sense :) - I didn't realie that was a MW bug Martinp23 05:44, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ling Lun

I don;t understand why you deleted the article stating it is an empty page. [4] SYSS Mouse 01:27, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bot restored vandalism on "Batman"

Bug with the Martinbot inadvertently restored a vandalism of Batman... page is correct now but reporting the bug. Please leave a message on my talk page if you need more details.

[edit] SVN

Now that you're an AWB developer (and BAG member, gosh what a busy week!), any interest in adding the wiki tools you've written in C# (or any dotnet language) to the AWB SVN repository? We might be able to recycle or integrate code, help out with each other's tools etc. Just a thought. --kingboyk 14:54, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Very busy week! I'll take a look at what's useful in my code and add to SVN either tomorrow, Weds, or next week :) (and even busier week IRL coming up!). I have some concerns about releasing the code of NPWatcher for now, but the issues should (hopefully) die down soon. Thanks, Martinp23 18:24, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AWB Dev Talk Page

Hey, If you haven't already, i'd recommend adding Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Dev to your watchlist

Cheers

Reedy Boy 20:11, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks - :) Martinp23 20:16, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Thret on user page

Ok, I'll simplify that to say, "Please ask me first before copieing" or something like that. - Patricknoddy^{TALK (reply here)|HISTORY} 20:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I've changed it to say:

"Please ask Patricknoddy before copying from this page!!". - Patricknoddy^{TALK (reply here)|HISTORY} 20:42, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I know they don't have to, I'm just requesting that they do. - Patricknoddy^{TALK (reply here)|HISTORY} 20:43, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DRV closures

Hey Martin, I've tweaked the {{DRV top}} template in a way that it automatically adds a (closed) marker behind the title in the subect line. This might make the job easier for the bot to recognize when all discussions ar closed. It's diescribed in detail at the bottom of WT:DRV. Take care, trialsanderrors 09:31, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi - sorry for the time it's taking with this bot - I got a little bogged down in real life :). I'll get it up and running on my return - thanks, Martinp23 23:30, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hope all goes well

Thank you very much. I hope everything goes smoothly. =) Nishkid64 13:54, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] hey

hey buddy long time no see!

Hi - Martinp23 23:25, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] VB.Net

Do you have any knowledge of/experience with VB.net? I have a resolute bug or two in my plugin's logging feature, and could do with a second pair of eyes looking at it. --kingboyk 23:56, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I may not be of much use, I'm afraid. I can find my way around VB.NET, but C# is my true love, and the lack of { } in VB.NET scares me :). I will, however, be happy to take a look on my return, if the problem persists. Martinp23 23:26, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help here

Martin, I need you help me build a bot(I've never built one before!)Trampton 10:04, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

I will be happy to help you on my return, however for the next week or so it might be good for you to try out AutoWikiBrowser in manual mode for things like typo fixing, etc. Thanks, Martinp23 23:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MartinBot source

Hi! I'm wondering if MartinBot's source is available, and can it be customized to work on other wiki project? I'm running a bot on toolserver too, and that would be used as AntiVandalBot for bswiki. --Emx 21:12, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi - at some point I'll be working on internationalising MartinBot's source, and would welcome your help if you can offer it! I'll get in contact on my return, but feel free to leave messages here/drop me an email. Thanks, Martinp23 23:29, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Sure, count on me. --Emx 08:33, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More MartinBot stuff

I have a request to make regarding MartinBot, and how it works with pgkbot on #vandalism-en-wp. Would it remotely possible to not display diffs on #vandalism-en-wp that MartinBot is in the middle of reverting? This would be a bit difficult if pgkbot's source is not open, although the theoretical possibility of it is exciting—mainly in that more subtle, and truly damaging, vandalism can be caught. Then again, we can have a channel for MartinBot to report IPs so that other people can warn the users with an appropriate level. It just gets complicated, though. MartinBot... kind of screws with normal vandal-fighting. I can't say whether its net effect is positive or negative. (I know it's just a clone, but no matter.) So, would this synchronization be possible? Gracenotes^T § 01:47, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

For the time being, MartinBot has effectively taken over from AVB. The best person to ask about this is pgk, who is (obviously) more familiar with the pgkbot code than I, but I will look into it on my return (I'm editing from the airport now). Martinp23 06:27, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] re: meadiation

yes i am aweare of that and no offense taken. i applied for modreatiorship (i know thats not a word) and it says

Currently unassigned mediation requests can be found at: Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Open Tasks. Applicants are encouraged to select an unassigned mediation and volunteer to mediate for it; this allows the committee to review the candidate's performance, and provides the candidate an opportunity to experience mediation firsthand. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Razor romance (talk • contribs) 14:17, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] MartinBot

Hi there, your bot (Martinbot) recently reverted my edit to Subhoodz, it was a copyright violation which had not been blanked but had a tag on it, I blanked the page per WP:CSD and said in my edit summary that I had blanked it in good reason because it was a copyvio, the bot reverted it and warned me and I'm not a vandal so maybe you could set the bot so that it does not revert edits if they are marked with {{copyvio}} as it was a legitamite edit and do you mind if I remove the warning and explain it there? Cheers! Tellyaddict 16:25, 29 March 2007 (UTC)