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[edit] Image tagging for Image:Th MySpace Secret Shows logo.jpg

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[edit] Reply

I'm not upset with you; learning Wikipedia's policies in the face of many experienced editors who are discussing removing your contributions is undoubtedly frustrating. My statement was that it has no third party sources, not that it's an advertisement. One good point in the discussion was that while MySpace and the bands are notable, the sponsorship of the shows by others through MySpace isn't necessarily notable. I'm sorry that you feel that your time has been wasted. Leebo T/C 22:20, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

It sounds like you're saying some combination of "it should have an article because it has a fanbase" and "it should have an article because many other non-notable articles exist", neither of which are valid arguments. It's not that I "have it out" for your article. It came up on the log deletion discussions (there are hundreds every day) and I commented in it. I'm not running around blindly looking for articles to delete. You can see, I have contributed several new articles myself. I looked at the article and asked myself if it meets Wikipedia's policies and I felt it didn't and explained myself. If you disagree, that's fine, but I expect an argument ground in the same policies. Leebo T/C 22:34, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
People have done that to me (See:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DynaMed). It's called disrupting Wikipedia to prove a point. Leebo T/C 22:39, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
I gave my opinion, I'm not sure what else there is to say. I'm not sure either why you singled me out to ask all of these questions, it wasn't me who nominated your article for deletion. I'm only one of many who commented. Leebo T/C 22:45, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

JuJube nominated the article. His comment is the one at the very top of the discussion. You may have noticed mine first because I bold my name in my signature, and as the first commenter I started my post with the bolded Delete (the nominator doesn't because it's assumed that he's saying Delete). It probably would have been courteous for him to leave you a note telling you the discussion was taking place, but there's not much that can be done about that now. Leebo T/C 22:52, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blanking the discussion

I'm not sure if you did this by accident, but make sure you don't do it again. The discussion is permanent and repeated removal of other editors comments will be considered vandalism. Leebo T/C 23:05, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

The discussion has to go for 5 days before an administrator will close it. The AfD template may not be removed from the article. I have no say in this, it's Wikipedia policy. Someone else will reinstate the discussion if I don't. Leebo T/C 23:14, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Joy Berry, Rancho Verde High School

  • Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits are considered vandalism and are immediately reverted. If you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the work of others. Thank you. JuJube 00:38, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Please do not delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Talk:Pixar; this is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you.--ZimZalaBim (talk) 00:56, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Your article is not a stub, it's spam. There's a difference. JuJube 21:24, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD at MySpace Secret Shows

Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion pages, as you did with MySpace Secret Shows. The notices and comments are needed to establish community consensus about the status of an article, and removing them is considered vandalism. If you oppose the deletion of an article, you may comment at the respective page instead. Thank you. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 00:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Personal attacks

Regarding this edit:

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 20:58, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sign your comments, please

As a courtesy to other editors, it is a Wikipedia guideline to sign your posts on talk pages, user talk pages, and WikiProject pages. To do so, simply add four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your comments and your user name or IP address and the date will be automatically added along with a timestamp. Signing your comments helps people to find out who said something and provides them with a link to your user/talk page (for further discussion). For further info, read Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. Thank you. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 21:13, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Admin

Tell on the administrators? What are you referring to? If you are talking about how I struck your second "keep" !vote in the discussion, that's so that the administrator who closes it can tell that it wasn't 2 different people saying keep. Leebo T/C 22:04, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I just went back and looked at the discussion. I'm sorry I gave you a serious response. Your last comment crossed a line. Please do not message me again if you only wish to make uncivil comments. Leebo T/C 22:07, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MySpace Secret Shows

I've had to delete this page again as you recreated it shortly after it was deleted according to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MySpace Secret Shows. If you wish to recreate this article, you should go through Deletion Review. When contributing to Wikipedia, please try to remain civil, it certainly stops people getting their backs up. -- Nick t 19:56, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Since the page was originally deleted via an AFD, it can be speedy deleted (that is, without warning) if the same content is posted again. That is what happened. If you strongly feel the article meets the notability requirements, then I would suggest that you open a request for the deletion to be reviewed at WP:DRV. Hope this helps.--thunderboltz(TALK) 20:03, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Instructions to open a deletion review are listed at Wikipedia:Deletion_Review#Instructions. I'd gladly open a deletion review for you, but first you need to talk to the administrator who deleted the page, and voice your concerns with him. If you are able to convince him that the notability of the article meets those required by Wikipedia (See WP:N ), then he himself will undelete it.
Addendum: I see you've already contacted him. Please wait for his reply. I've copied the last revision temporarily to User:Martini833/MySpace Secret Shows, which you can work on meanwhile.--thunderboltz(TALK) 20:25, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
An administrator's view is at par with that of a normal editor. Administrators just have access to a few more technical aspects of Wikipedia. As far as I can see, the article has a fair chance of being restored. However, many would recommend it to be merged into MySpace, no doubt.--thunderboltz(TALK) 20:45, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
All right then. Go to Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 March 31 and edit the page to add the following at the end:
{{subst:Newdelrev|pg=MySpace Secret Shows|reason=REASON}}
where "REASON" should be replaced with the reason you request the article to be restored. Please remember to remain civil and not to attack the admin who deleted the page, or your views wouldn't be heard in a favourable light.
Ping me if you have any difficulties going about this. I'll be online for a few more minutes.--thunderboltz(TALK) 20:56, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
I've removed the fair use images from this page whilst it resides in user space (it's against policy). You'll need to remove the comments <!-- and --> to show the images again. -- Nick t 21:38, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
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