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for some reason didn't find your name in the latter versions of the ArbCom pages on Armenia-Azerbaijan, so added you per "The current listing is incomplete. Anyone aggressively editing these articles should assume they are a party. Add their names and give them notice. No motion is necessaryFred Bauder 13:48, 15 March 2007 (UTC)" --adil 22:49, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Late, late re

Hi, I am sorry I only noticed this post [1] a moment ago while I was archiving. I was away for a couple of weeks and didn't check my talk comprehensively it seems when I got back. I am not an expert on the issue but I will take a look at it - although I don't know what kind of an atmosphere reigns in Turkish wiki :) So how come you speak Turkish? Couldn't see any TR flags in your user page, so I was just curious.. Baristarim 03:24, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, ok it was changed then.. I would have thought that it would have been pretty obvious even in TR wiki, and was kind of surprised when I read your post - thus my comment above about the Turkish wiki :) Even though I am not an expert, I know the background of the story :) As for the tr flag, no particular point, it was because I couldn't see Turkey as a place where you have lived or been to in your user page, and it is pretty rare for someone to know a language when they haven't been to that country. Just curious, that's all :) But you do have a point about Azeri I suppose. Again, I am sorry for getting back this late - I was perusing the posts one last time before archiving..
Btw, I just ran into the ArbCom case two days ago.. I knew that there was some bad stuff going on (from all those reverts popping up on my watchlist :)), but had no idea that it had gotten so bad. In fact, it is the general systemic bias which condemns articles from all of Eastern Med and Caucasia to oblivion among the general public.. Except Israel-palestine and Iraq issues (lately), there are rarely any impartial editors who stick their hands in.. I would have tried to come in and help cool it a bit, but I am also not an expert nor a native therefore I might not have been quite helpful. I hope that it has gotten better lately.. Baristarim 04:16, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rmvl of AG reference

Such a blatant removal - of not even shortening but just cutting - is not acceptable. You guys tell me what you find so problematic with it, ignoring length since Kemal is the only reason you guys hold those lands, but this is otherwise suppression of sources and info. You don't even bother trying to edit the information and instead opt for a complete removal of the passage. My message on the talk page has been there for days and no one has yet to respond. I know what this man represents to your people but this is cynical. --MarshallBagramyan 16:27, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

1) You see Ataturk attacking Armenia, Turks see Turkish revolutionaries as a whole. 2) It is Kazim Karabekir that was facing ADR not ATATURK (as it is referred in your text for war activities). 3) Ataturk had never (not once) visited the battle zone. 4) The war between ADR and Turksih revolutinaries needs to be extended and you personally need to prove that genocide is performed to claim such ... (there is no word to it) 4) If it Turkish-Armenian War is a GENOCIDE; than you should develop it under ARMENIAN GENOCIDE not at this page (but you have no sincerity in this issue to take it under where it belongs) . This genocide of yours is also becoming a joke as everything between Armenians and Turks become a genocide. it looks like Turkish sneezing during 1914-1918 becomes a genocidal activity against Armenians. ThanksOttomanReference 16:41, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
You are welcome to extend the Turkish-Armenian War. --OttomanReference 16:41, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
> MarshallBagramyan "prevent the suppression of that info" Which info? where is this info! You have a single sentence that does not any factuality. Do you have a gut to rewrite this genocide article with the sections heading WHO? WHOM? WHERE? HOW? WHICH METHODS? WHY? All you do is write single liners.. 1.5 million died? Where did they die? how did they die? can you answer these questions? let me remind you, 150,000 Armenian volunteer units were also included in this count of yours. People like you turn the concept of a genocide into a JOKE. You are an Armenian Joke. I state again; if you are serious, the Armenian genocide page is the place to develop a section that explains how this Turkish-Armenian War is a genocide. But you are not doing that... People like you brought DOUBT in to Armenian genocide. Have a nice day. OttomanReference 19:09, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
If you are "serious" about including Turkish-Armenian War as a part of Armenian genocide; I would be glad to verify your sources. The genocide is a very serious concept. If you are serious, and not "joking"; I would glad to give my time to find the credibility of what is not yet presented information about these events of yours. That information had to be occurred between 1920-1921 (from battle of Oltu to Treaty of Alexandropol). Ataturk stayed in the Ankara during this time, so there has to be a paperwork trail which should link him to these events of yours. Also I appreciate if you tell me where you are going to develop this concept. My personal choice is under Armenian Genocide. Otherwise I'm proposing you to be "serious" and remove these claims. Thanks. Have a nice day. --OttomanReference 23:33, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re

Yes, that's a PA. Try WP:AN/I. Khoikhoi 04:16, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Van Resistance

Hey, wondering if you got my message about Van article, I wanna rewrite it appropriately and according to wiki guidelines. I have acces to JSTOR, tell me if you wanna collaborate on this. (Hetoum 00:15, 3 April 2007 (UTC))