Talk:Mary Kay Ash
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Regarding birthdate, which is questioned: Like many women, she probably got younger as she aged (that is, she lied by giving a more recent birthdate as it became necessary: One source, probably documenting this at a late stage, is the Social Security Death Index, which shows a "Mary K. [sic] Ash" with a SSN of 465-40-5167 who last resided in Dallas, Texas, as having been born on 12 May 1918 and dying 22 November 2001. Her SSN was issued in Texas before 1951. So that's at least one citable source for "a" birthdate, though one that will need to be reconsidered if variant dates are found sprinkled about other documents. - Nunh-huh 08:20, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)
TEXAS OBITUARIES (July 2001-July 2003) (from the Texas Almanac 2004-2005) gives her age at death in 2001 as 83: "Ash, Mary Kay, 83; her cosmetics company (known for its signature color pink) grew from 11 employees in 1963 to a multimillion-dollar global empire at her death; in Dallas, November 22, 2001." This also gives an approximate birth date of 1918. (and shows only that she lied consistently at the end<g>).
What's needed to pin this down is her early census records, which will give an actual, unenhanced birthdate, if they can be located. Nunh-huh- 08:20, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Britannica gives 1918. I'm leaning pretty strongly toward that one; all the sources for the 1915 date seem third-hand and unreliable. One site even gives "Mary Kay Ash, the founder the Mary Kay cosmetics company, died Thursday, November 22, 2001, at her home in Dallas. ... She was 83. ... Born in 1915..."! Do the math, kids! CNN's obituary reads "Various media reports gave her age as 83, but company spokeswoman Jennie Moore said the legendary entrepreneur never revealed her age." Perhaps we should go with "(1918?-2001)." -leigh (φθόγγος) 09:46, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Harvard Business School
I delete the reference to Harvard Business School. If there is any evidence from a source other than Mary Kay (Corporate) and/or Mary Kay Consultants, that any of the books that Mary kay wrote have been used in any business course, then it can be added back. 67.136.147.122 17:21, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Article neutrality
This article as presently written makes Mary Kay Ash seem like a sort of saint. Even if she was a wonderful person, it still seems a bit over the top. Anyone who was the subject of a TV movie entitled "Hell on Heels: The Battle of Mary Kay" has to have been more interesting than that. I don't know enough about the subject myself, however, to take this one on. --A. B. 13:16, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
i am stupid
