Talk:Maroon (people)
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Info on the page Maroon should be merged here Guettarda 22:38, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- The page Maroon was made into a disambiguation page since the above coment was made here. --Brian Z 20:57, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Later, the governor signed a treaty promising the Maroons 2500 acres (10 km²) in two locations, because they presented a threat to the British
The governor of where? Brazil?
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[edit] haiti
should not haiti be included as claiming maroons as an important part of its history?
[edit] djuka
The picture captions include the word "Djuka". But there is no mention of this term in the text. Worse, the page for "Djuka" just redirects back to "Maroon". I'm left not knowing how a "Djuka Maroon" differs from an unqualified "Maroon" - is it a particular tribe?
[edit] The "tribes' of Maroon peoples in Suriname
I will quote below a passage found at: http://lucy.ukc.ac.uk/EthnoAtlas/Hmar/Cult_dir/Culture.7834 describing the various groups of Maroons or "Bush Negros" In Suriname which should answer the question above about the Djukas. John Hill 02:48, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
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- "Today, according to Price (1976), there are six Bush Negro tribes. He divides them into two main groups on the basis of cultural and linguistic differences, as well as location: (1) the Eastern Tribes, consisting of the Djuka (Aucaner, Awka), the Aluku (Aluku nenge, Boni), and the Paramaka (Paramacca); and (2) the Central Tribes, consisting of the Saramaka (Saramacca), the Matawai, and the Kwinti (cf. the tribal distribution map in Price 1976: 5). The Djuka and Saramaka are the largest tribes, with estimated populations of 15,000 to 20,000 each. The Aluku, Matawai, and Paramaka are much smaller, with estimated populations of around 2,000 each. The smallest tribe is the Kwinti, with fewer than 500 people. Three main creole languages are spoken in Surinam: (1) Sranan (Sranan Tongo, Taki-Taki), which was once the language of the plantation slaves and is now the "national language" of Surinam, spoken throughout the country as a lingua franca; (2) Ndjuka, spoken by the Djuka, Aluku, and Paramaka; and (3) Saramaccan, spoken by the Saramaka and Matawai. It is not clear where the language of the Kwinti fits since it has not been adequately described. The Voegelins (1977) list a fourth language, Aucaan, but give no further information about it. Both Price and the Voegelins agree that Sranan and Ndjuka are, with little effort, mutually intelligible; while Saramaccan is the most distinct of the three languages and mutually unintelligible with Sranan. (It is not specified whether Saramaccan and Ndjuka are also mutually unintelligible.) There is one key difference between Price and the Voegelins with respect to the classification of these languages. The latter classify all of them as English-based creole languages belonging to the Atlantic branch of the West Germanic group of Germanic within Indo-European. Price would presumably agree except in the case of Saramaccan. If his estimate of the derivations of the Saramaccan vocabulary is correct (i.e., 50 percent African, 20 percent Portuguese, 20 percent English, and 10 percent Dutch and Amerindian), then Saramaccan cannot be classified as an English-based creole. Furthermore, Saramaccan is fully a tone language (cf. Price 1976: 35-36; Voegelin 1977: 142-44)."
[edit] Capitalization
Should the word Maroon be capitalized? Its capitalization is inconsistent in the article. -Pgan002 10:04, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Jamacian material removed 26 Januray 2007
The following material was added by an IP editor (IP 172.188.176.124) under Usage and other terms by someone who apparently did not read the whole article. Much of it is already in the section on Jamaica. The Jamaican section could do with a good rewrite. Removed materail:
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- Following the seizure of the Spanish colony of Jamaica by a British force sent to the region by Oliver Cromwell, the local Maroons fought a prolonged insurgency campaign against the new occupier. Amongst their leaders was a female chief known as 'Nanny', now an official national hero in independent Jamaica. Local legend maintains that Nanny was able to catch British musket balls with her teeth and throw them back at the advancing redcoats.
- Fighting from their mountain hideouts and protected by thick vegetation and the tropical climate, the Maroons prevailed and were eventually able to negotiate a peace treaty with the British. This treaty awarded them local self rule within two parts of the Jamaican hinterland, and they remain there today, governed independently by their 'Colonel of Maroons', a little known remnant of the original slave population brought from Africa by the Spanish in the 1500s.
- The Maroons have their own language which is largely based on West African languages and when a Nigerian film crew visited them in the early 1980s, they were able to converse without recourse to English.
- Verification and citation is needed for some of this. --Bejnar 03:09, 27 January 2007 (UTC)