Talk:Mark Mangino

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I removed the player and 2 game accomplishments, they are too fan-like informational tidbits. They might be able to be added back under a different context, but accomplishments that are only recognized by Mangino's fans are hard to be seen as unbiased information. National Championships, Bowl Games, All Americans, etc. would be appropriate. --Radioshack 21:37, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

• It's not POV to list accomplishments that any bio of Mangino will list. The streak versus Nebraska was national news as it was (at the time) the second-longest such streak between any two teams (Navy vs. Notre Dame was first). Coaching an All-American is also notable for a program at Kansas's level. Is there a way this obviously verifiable information could be included alongside some other information that would satisfy your concerns about the NPOV rule?
  • I quantified the defense statement. --Radioshack 00:05, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

It's probably not reasonable to cite my edit summaries as "proof" that the inclusion of the information violates NPOV either - consider if the creator of the September 11 attacks had left a comment like "what a horrible act" - would the information still not be verifiable and encyclopedic? ESkog | ^Talk 23:42, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

The edit summary was support, not proof. The 9/11 example is extreme. --Radioshack 00:05, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

• The page as it exists now looks like a good compromise. Thanks. ESkog | ^Talk 00:13, 11 December 2005 (UTC)