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[edit] Can Some Please Explain to me...

Why is it that I keep having problems with the notability of this page and his band The Ducky Boys page? The notability is there. Google the names. His/their albums are on Amazon, ITunes, and you'll find a ton of hits on google. He's toured with some of the biggest bands in his genre. I've had this same debate in the past with others and they said I was right. So can someone please tell me what I must go through this again?

Just because you haven't heard of him, doesn't mean that others haven't

AxYoungAlex

See WP:N and WP:MUSIC. -- TedFrank 19:59, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but you still didn't answer my question. You want tour information as criteria? This will be the last show before The Dropkick Murphys go on their nation-wide The Gang’s All Here CD tour with Oxymoron and The Ducky Boys. [1] I'd just like to know how some people have approved this content before and now it suddenly is unacceptable again? AxYoung

I don't know who these "some people"[Who?] are, but people on Wikipedia have good-faith disagreements. I, for one, don't think half a sentence tacked on the end of a college newspaper article about a different band qualifies as evidence of multiple non-trivial published works establishing notability; college-newspaper music writing is essentially fancruft in my eyes, and WP:MUSIC explicitly says An article in a school or university newspaper (or similar) would generally be considered trivial as well as Works comprising merely trivial coverage, such as newspaper articles that simply report performance dates. Perhaps someone else disagrees, though I don't see any evidence that there was ever a consensus that this guy is notable. I'm happy to have this evaluated at AfD; the tag is a courtesy to let editors know that there is an issue with the article, and give them time to fix it before I'm inclined to nominate it for deletion as unfixable. If you want to argue that the article is already sufficient when I'm clearly not persuaded, I'm happy to see what the consensus of other Wikipedia editors is through the AfD process. -- TedFrank 20:39, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

This is from one of the site's editors in response to the other article.

Update: I think you've done a good job meeting any objections. The article no longer has a "promotional" or "press release-y" sound to it, and you've supplied references. Please don't take the initial tagging personally; it's just part of what is called "Newpages Patrol" around here. Many people try to use Wikipedia to promote bands few have ever heard of—often bands they are themselves playing in or serving as PR agent for. If you check the history you'll see that I had already removed the non-notability tag based on a Google search for "Ducky Boys"+"punk" returning over 63,000 hits. That seems notable enough for me. Just one more thing: it's customary to sign your comments with a dash followed by four tilde signs like so AxYoung 21:06, 29 March 2007 (UTC) (which get converted into your user name and a timestamp). --IslandGyrl 16:32, 3 December 2006 (UTC) [2] AxYoung

[edit] Keep!

Mark Lind is a household name in the Boston Rock Scene. Anyone who knows music in Massachusetts knows Mark Lind. There's no reason why he doesn't deserve a wikipedia page.